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    1. John_Rock

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      Opinions are like noses, everyone has one and they all smell.

      Anyone who'se old like me will remember a book called "Unsafe at Any Speed" which made a certain someone named Ralph Nader famous. What you're seeing is nothing more than a similar grasp for fame from another green eyed politicin to be.

      Now I've driven almost every SUV on the market, and I've driven the Explorer on a road course and let me tell you, yes they drive differently than cars, but does this make them unsafe? No. Only to people who don't recognize that fact. That isn't a fault of the SUV, its the driver.

      He states in the article that the Escalade he drove was so vague and unresponsive that he went straight home and hid under his blanket. My advice to him? If it scares you that much, don't drive it. Soccer Mama down the road seems to like it just fine...
       
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      I feel completely unsafe in my Explorer Sport every moment I drive it. I'm just waiting for the thing to tip over when I take a turn any higher than 15MPH. Oh, and it's much too powerful because it easily overtakes much smaller cars. Oh, and it uses far too much fuel, robbing the planet of natural resources and polluting the air. It also makes me overly agressive and vain when I drive it (I check my hair in the mirror constantly while driving). It's also much more dangerous to drive my Explorer while talking on the phone than it is for someone in, say, a minivan. So yeah, SUVs are just horrible! What was I thinking???

      The preceeding was brought to you by the liberal environmentalist movement. Thanks for not laughing too much.
       
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      I HATE it when they say we shouldn't drive a vehicle because it will fair better in a collison than another vehicle. Why don't they go harp on the little tin pieces of shit that are on the road.

      We are heading towards an age of government mandated vehicles, more so than today. You will be able to choose your color and that's it. Everyone's car will be EXACTLY the same. NO modifications will be allowed PERIOD. If we're lucky they will "allow" each manufacturer to product one "government" vehicle.

      Even without SUVs don't we have to deal with semi's, city delivery trucks, buses, etc.??? Aren't those vehicles difficult to see around, don't they take longer to stop, don't they induce greater injurys to pedestrians in an accident???

      Our SUVs are TINY compared to old classics like the Dusenburg. Those behemouths only carried 4-6 people and were HUGE. Back then a down sized car was a Cadillac which by todays standards is the size of a tank.

      <<<<<GRRRRRR>>>>>>>
       
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      I agree with you rick, What about Minivans or those windowless panel vans? They're a menace!

      Somebody quick, write a book about them!

      Naw, I'm sure this guy is just honestly concerned, all that profit is simply a byproduct he's learned to live with :rolleyes:
       
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      There was another fella with that same idea, you may have heard of him...............................HITLER!

      Robb
       
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      It's the driver that should know how to drive their own car when a situation happens.
       
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      Yes, but isn't the Old Beetle so cute?
       
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      True that Robb! All the liberal leftists want more government control on everything from taxes, to higher education, to the cars we drive. It is very very very sad...
       
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      lol, that guys scared of a durango
       
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      That's what get's me... Cars nowadays are made with "crumple" zones, so basically if you hit something at any normal speed, it get's totaled (my cousin had a car and rear-ended a truck at 30mph... his truck, minimal damage for the given circumstances.. her car, totaled)... Granted, these "zones" are supposed to help someone survive, but the car gets destroyed... And what, I'm at fault because my truck survived better than yours? What the hell? That's why I want it... So it'll last
       
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      My two cents...

      Let me tell you, my old '86 Country Squire station wagon with the 5.0 EFI (first year EFI was available I believe) was just as dangerous. It weighed more and had more power, and the mileage it got was just as bad.

      It was a great money maker in college though, being able to take four kids and their "stuff" back home with me. But I digress....

      Is it just me or is every car on the road today unsafe...

      People drag racing ricers and pony cars, SUV's that "tip" too easily, complete home entertainment systems in minivans distracting drivers...

      The one common thing (that any competent person can see) is that what a car does is controlled by it's driver. If people buy an SUV and drive it like a Viper, they are going to have roll-over problems. If you drive your SUV like it weighs as much as an average car your going to have fuel consumption problems. Most SUV's get decent fuel economy (though my view of decent is slightly distorted being that I think anything better than 17 MPG is decent :) )

      I just wish that the American public (hell, the public of the world) would wake up and start thinking for themselves for a change and quit the "A book was written about it so it must be true" mentality. If people would execute some common sense once in a while books like this would not get any publicity because people would see that they are dumb to begin with.

      Dave
       
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      Indeed it's true.. Alot of people don't seem to realize that different vehicles drive differently.. What works for one type, may not work for another.. In the case of suv's rolling, you can't turn it at high speeds like a sports car can.. It's not one. Just like you wouldn't wheel in a viper... Hmm... weird idea.. Anyway, I agree with you BigDave
       
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      Everyone should drive these things...

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      I feel better now..........sometimes Rick's pics don't even work.:D

      Robb
       
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      Rick, Are you trying to show us that drinking Dos Equis and driving SUV's don't mix?
       
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      I found proof that evil Durango's are dangerous!

      The proof is in the pudding!

      Here's an evil scary Dodge Durango that killed one of Santa's reindeer!

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      Geeze some airbag sensors up in the windshield and that deer may have lived!!!

      Did the anlters kill the driver/passenger? any body hurt?



      OKay back on topic....

      GIVE ME A BREAK. I'll keep my 88, she'll keep getting bigger and tougher until I am happy, if you happen to run your metro into my roll cage and the metro doesnt come out looking so good at least my insurance rates wont go up and I can rattle can some new black paint onto my now scratched bumper. Now of course I dont drive my BII like a Porsche, but heyProsche has got a new 4x4 out so, maybe I am??? Think about it..........

      Oh and I' think I'll write a book called "food is bad" I mean why not? SUV's are bad, yet still everyone needs them..... at least it would sell becuase of all the controversy from me telling people not to eat...."How could you say that!!! that is ridiculous!! people need to eat!!!" hahahahaha America is great......

      The newer cars/trucks get, the better my old ones are.
       
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      The guy in the red jacket in the 2nd picture seems to have been the driver. I have another pic that shows his forehead bleeding. I didn't post it cuz I figured these four pics were good enough to make fun of the evil Durango.
      Supposedly, the deer was on an overpass when a car spooked it. The deer jumped off the over pass were it met the dodge. But, I have no clue if that's the real story. It's just an email I received from a friend.
       
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      We had a freak accident in Phoenix where a pickup with a Rottweiler in back rear ended a car on top of an overpass. The dog flew out of the trucks bed over the fence and down through the windshield of a car passing by on the freeway. The driver was killed by a flying Rottweiler.
       
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      Boy, that would suck.
      I'm actually surprised that animal rights activists haven't gotten any laws passed about having pets, mainly dogs, secured in a cage that is tethered down somehow. So that they might survive accidents or not become flying lethal objects.
      I'm dumbfounded about people that drive around in big cities with dogs in their laps.
       
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      Yes my SUV is safe to drive but its not a sports car and you have to drive it properly. A short story which may make you all laugh:

      Some years ago I worked for the Automobile Association ( they do the emergency repairs at the roadside etc I think yours is AAA ) anyway they bought some nice new Range Rovers to look posh for the members and within two weeks both had been rolled. So they introduced a special driving course for all those who were going to be aloud to drive them. No pass no drive.

      Some food for thought maybe there should be a driving test just for SUV's in the interest of safety of course. On the other hand perhaps the test should be much harder to pass so that we all drive better :D :D
       
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      morrisey0 - good lookin' out! haha, that's great!
       
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      All our problems on the road lie with drivers. Not the cars, the idiots in the cars. This guy probably can't drive and he wrote a book about it. For the first few months after I started driving, I had a thing for blaming all the Honda's I saw on the road, but a Van or two later as well as even some other SUV's and more than my share of pickup trucks doing moronic stuff later proved that it's the drivers. A good driver knows these limitations of their vehicles. This is why I laugh when someone I know carries a pile of bricks in the trunk, drives down a pothole and bump filled road, all in their Honda then complain when they need new rear suspension. I think it's every person's right to drive what they want to drive, thats what makes this place great.
       

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