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Livernois tune experience

Discussion in 'Modified 2011- 2019 Explorers - Tuning & Mods' started by explosportguy, June 6, 2015.

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  1. explosportguy

    explosportguy Elite Explorer

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    It took about 4 days, so around 200 miles for the trans to level out.

    Regarding my wife, I'm really fortunate. That's her in the white Camaro chasing me in my avatar pic.

    Just be sure to follow the instructions that the tuner displays. My update cycled more than once. I don't remember how many times or exactly the sequence.

    +1 to everything BlackJac says in his post. The car has to be completely quiet. No A/C, no automatic lights, no radio, nothing connected to accessory power or USB, etc. before you start the tune update. I even disabled the BT and Wifi on my phone prior to starting the tune because I used the phone to take the pics. Also, don't let anyone open any doors or disturb the car in any way during the tune. Don't touch the brake, gas pedals turn signal stalk or any other control during the tune upload.

    Just be sure to follow the LMS printed instructions and the tuner displayed instructions. Call LMS if you have any questions or concerns, they've always been very responsive when I've called.
     
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    Got my tunes tonight. Will hopeull have it installed tomorrow night when i get a PC!
     
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    Now if say i loaded my tune...had to go to dealer for service...went back to stock.....then BACK to tune after service... i assume it would have to relearn it again ect
     
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    explosportguy Elite Explorer

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    that's correct. Each reload of the tune is a 'reboot'.
     
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    With the stock tune going back..would the trans have to relearn that as well..or since it's stock setup..no? Just curious

    BTW what does the 93 tune roughly add to HP and torque?
     
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    This will sound stupid...but what's the 3 bar?
     
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    Reloading the stock tune does require the transmission to relearn if I remember correctly (just like when you start driving the car when it is new).

    I don'r recall regarding the hp and torque figures. I think I remember seeing them posted here somewhere but I didn't save the link to the post. Don't know how accurate they are however.
     
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    The 3 bar MAP (absolute manifold pressure) sensor can measure the higher manifold pressures associated with higher turbo boost. The Sport's stock MAP can only report to ~14.5 to the PCU (powertrain control module). Boost pressures greater than 14.5 psi in the manifold still report 14.5. This causes problems for the tunes (and ultimately you) because once the manifold pressure exceeds the max value, the tune can no longer know what the real manifold is. From what I understand from LMS, this is no problem for the standard 93 perf tune, because they limit max boost to approximately 14.5 (a relatively mild boost increase of approximately 2 psi over stock). If you want to go further, or if you want to razor tune the 93 perf tune, you need the 3 bar MAP sensor so it can accurately report manifold presssure up to ~29 psi.
     
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    Also, if you go beyond the 93 perf tune, you're getting into fuel issues / methanol injection territory. The weakest link theory proven!
     
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    Higher tunes then 93? I would figure you would get into fuel issues with that unless you change a lot!

    I had a buddy who had a tune on his older mustang GT a while ago..93 and he put in a full tank of 91 IIRC and actually got some pinging/knocking..light but it started

    Loaded all my tunes...now i can give my cousin back his laptop haha
     
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    It's really not only about higher octane, it's about driving the boost up beyond 2-3 psi, etc. Because even the LMS 93 perf tune is pretty much on the edge for a stock Sport, you really cannot run a lower octane gas with the tune. Not surprising that your buddy got some pinging and knocking.

    I bet your cousin will be glad to get his laptop back!
     
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    haha...he really doesn't use it :thumbsup:
     
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    Shifts are much better...defiantly harsher and like you said should quiet down

    I have noticed it has made the air rush and even the blowoff louder since i put the tune in
     
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    Enjoy:thumbsup::):thumbsup::)
     
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    I didnt think it would change the sound of the rush/blowoff but if deff did! It was addicting before..now? Forget about it haha
     
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    Probably not as I'll probably jump into the '17/18 MY Sport, Platinum, or 2.3L EB once it gets SYNC 3. The buyout was $27k if I remember correctly.
     
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    Fords warranty is 3yrs or 36K miles.. If you can even call that a warranty. Everyone should fully understand that a tune could damage your vehicle, but then again if it was common livernois wouldn't be in business very long.
     
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    Have you used DashCommand to measure any power or torque gains? I'm not sure how much I trust the results it's giving me - it's reading 450+ hp and 500+ lbft...
     
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    Hi TF, no I only use Dash Command for the timings. The hp and tq are calculated values based on questionable variables so I don't even look at them. Same for OBD Fusion and Blue Driver. Performance numbers, PID logging and code retrieval are all I use them for. The only hp and tq values I trust would be from a awd dyno.
     
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    solid advice!
     

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