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Massive surging issue

Discussion in 'Stock 2011 - 2019 Ford Explorer Discussion' started by LakersCentral, June 22, 2014.

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  1. LakersCentral

    LakersCentral Active Member

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    Hey all,

    I'm getting some crazy surge-like behavior from my new (~1500 miles) 2014 Explorer Sport. It feels like I'm hitting a rev limiter, and unlike anything I've read about on here. Other surging issues on here seem to deal with loss of power, and usually at a high speed/rpm. This is not that.

    I've noticed this issue is worst:

    • in first minute after engine start
    • at very low rpm / speed (less than 10mph)
    • when its cold / humid outside
    • when turning (as in a 90 degree right hand turn onto the street)
    • when angled downhill (like when coming out of a parking lot)
    Some of these symptoms may be incidental or coincidental, but I just wanted to list everything in case other people may have experienced the same issues.

    I have heard things suggested like: spark plug gap too large, condensation in turbo cylinders, gas pump, etc. But again, these all were suggested for surging issue unlike what I've seen described.

    I would take it in to the dealership, but it may be difficult for them to reproduce, as it usually happens at night ;(. Has anyone else experienced this, or have any ideas as to what this could be?!?
     
    Last edited: June 22, 2014
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  3. Sgt1411

    Sgt1411 Elite Explorer

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    Sounds like a few of us have had this issue, yours seems much more severe, I wonder if you have the oil in the spark plug issue?
     
  4. LakersCentral

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    Oh! i haven't seen anyone mention *oil* in the spark plugs!

    Would the symptoms I listed be indicative of getting oil in a spark plug? (I'm quite inexperienced when it comes to anything under the hood)

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    update: I just saw the thread i believe you are referring to. Maybe [MENTION=157968]FordService[/MENTION] can weigh in on this issue?

    Also of note (possibly related?): I am getting very bad gas mileage. People have said the mpg gets better as the engine breaks in, but it seems I am starting off way lower than anyone else even did. It started off as low as 12.9 and went up to 14.1, but now has settled back to 13.8.
     
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  5. LakersCentral

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    Just ran a Vehicle Health Report, and my "Oil Life" was at 62%. I only have 1500 miles on my car. If I understand correctly, oil changes only need to be done every 7500 to 10000 miles on these vehicles. If my pace continues, that would put me at ~4000 miles.

    So I'm wondering if this is indicative of losing oil... possibly like [MENTION=250716]KYmxracer52[/MENTION] had with it leaking onto his spark plugs.
     
  6. Riley

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    There is a new TSB for excessive oil consumption on the 3.5L Ecoboost. TSB 14-0113
     
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  7. LakersCentral

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    Update: Finally took to dealership (Simi Valley Ford). They couldn't reproduce the issue, so they didn't look at anything. There were 2 other (unrelated) issues to which they said the same thing. Damn them. When i tell you $hit is wrong, it is. Investigate it.

    After more of my own research, it appears most likely that this stumbling issue is caused my condensation buildup in the intercooler. Ford's design was poor, and in an attempt to fix their error, they simply put a piece of plastic on the side of the intercooler where moisture was building up.

    This reduces airflow, but shouldn't allow that moisture buildup to enter. *Unless* (as was every time I reproduced the issue)- it is cold and damp outside, and I was turning and angled down. I believe this motion allowed that moisture buildup to get in.

    I'm no mechanic, but this seems the most likely scenario to fit the conditions and symptoms.
     
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    There is a pending law suit on this very same condition against Ford and the EcoBoost motor you should look in to......best regards Plum
     
  9. dentalpain

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    Were you tuned at the time?

    I had the same thing happen to my 15 sport 3 days in a row. I am running a 93 oct tune. Cold start in the am (35F) and before the closed loop fuel tables. Stumble under mid throttle 1 minute into the drive. Dealership found nothing day one (no CEL), data logging day three showed nothing unusual.

    It has never returned. But its my wifes daily driver so kinda hard to tell.
     
  10. LakersCentral

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    I wasn't tuned... Just straight stock doin it from day 1 off the lot.
    [MENTION=209069]plumbago[/MENTION] I've looked into this lawsuit, but cant find much info regarding it. What does "pending" mean in regards to a lawsuit?
     

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