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My New, New 347

Discussion in 'Need for Speed!' started by Dono, July 26, 2018.

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    1. Dono

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      My block getting bead blasted with stainless steel shot.


      Definitely no issues with the thrust surface of the block. I'm sure the block is better than it was off the factory floor.

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      I’d be tempted to tell him screw painting it, just clear coat it!
       
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      No kidding. That's gorgeous .
       
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      Dono V8 Limited turbo and retired SC 4.0 OHV Elite Explorer

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      Thats a great idea. I guess end of the day no one will be able to see the block at all anyway, so it doesn't much matter. But, the block would look good cleared with the aluminum heads, for sure.
       
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      in hind sight however, the clear would end up turning yellow over time and look yucky. after seeing the pictures now on the computer (yes don, its still working lol) i cant believe its the same block that was in celly's truck!
       
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      Dono V8 Limited turbo and retired SC 4.0 OHV Elite Explorer

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      My crank still hasn't shown up.
      I moved my truck to an insurance storage policy. I'm wishing I would have done that 6 months ago.

      Iv'e been sinking cash in to the piece of crap I'm driving unfortunately. On the fortunate side, I at least have wheels to get to work.
      I just might be installing my motor in spring the way this is going.
       
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      when its done, we will find a way to heat it. its going in no matter what!
       
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      Can't put a junkyard motor in until the new one is build? You'd at least be able to drive it until next year and get some use out of the rig:dunno:
       
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      Man, I want one of those grit blasting machines. It would be so handy.

      Heavy Charcoal powder with Casper clear ( flat clear) will result in a sparklymetallic, just blasted look which will come clean for years, if you can find a coater local to you. Masking will take hours though-
       
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      Jon, I'm just not willing to spend the money or time to make the block that pretty. Maybe if you could actually see the block (And my truck was more of a show truck) when its installed I'd consider it.

      I thought about having a used explored motor shipped to me from another part of Canada, but then the exhaust won't line up because of the aluminum heads, and I open up all kinds of pain points and fitment issues. Not to mention the builder will need the aluminum heads for the build. Ah, the misery of modifying the crap out of things.

      Yea Tim, I do have that 220v heater in the garage. I need to come up with some kind of a really big and cheap fan I can run at low speeds to keep that hot air moving around. The words Big, cheap, and wall mountable with a small footprint just doesn't seem to come together. Id love a ceiling fan if I could find one that fit tight against the ceiling. The roof om my garage is soooo low.
       
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      here's motivation for you (us, whatever) to get the motor in way before spring.
      the motor picker STAYS at your place till the motor is in! lol
       
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      Wall mount a couple oscillating fans, on opposing walls.

      I installed a couple electric radiant heaters on the ceiling, and the oscillating fan really helps.
       
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      I'll look for some fans that I think I can make work.
      I think the fans would really help with the floor of the garage not being so cold. Cold cement is shitty to roll around on, even with cardboard over it.
      I might even invest in a good creeper. lol.

      This will be a bit of a garage project for me. We have had no fall at all. We went from great summer, to cool and lots of rain to......snow. A good month early.
       
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      For the concrete, fasten 1/4" foam boards to 1/4" plywood sheeting, and cover the floor with it.

      Not the best method but is easily removable and can roll a creeper over.
       
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      I like that as a project also. Paint both sides of the 1/4 inch plywood with an oil based paint first?
      I wonder If I'd have the ability to figure out a reasonably easy way to connect them together in a way that I could build them as 4 x 4 pieces that fit together and keep the top surface smooth for using a creeper, etc. Could get expensive, but I sure like the idea.
       
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      Paint wouldn't hurt it, that's for sure. It will be cheaper than you would think. The foam insulation boards (come in a variety of colors) are very cheap. I would just use liquid nails in a caulking tube to fasten them to the plywood. 1/4" 4x8 ply is less than $15/sheet here, and at 32 sf each, you won't need that many for a garage.

      H-clips will be low profile tab connectors to fasten the sheets together. Most hardware or big box stores sell them in the building supply areas. If not, any roofing supplier will have them on hand. Using 1/4" sheeting, these are about the only way to go. I think 7/16" clips are as small as they make, but the foam backers should make them snug.

      Simpson Strong-Tie 20-Gauge 7/16 in. Plywood Sheathing Clip (50 Qty)-PSCL 7/16-R50 - The Home Depot

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      I think I have a couple of 1/4 inch 4x8 insulation sheets in the shed ( P2000 Insulation ). Maybe I'll try one 1/4" 4x8 pine plywood (At $35.00) Paint it at the office one night, and take it home and use the no more nails to stick the insulation on. Proof of concept. Even that would be pretty nice to stand on, I'm sure.
       
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      My crank finally showed up.
      I have to say I was concerned after Ford Strokers had posted video's of how bad the Eagle cranks were.
      I can also say that I don't know if Eagle was having quality issues at that time, but my Eagle crank is a thing of beauti.

      Have a look at the thrust surface. No chatter marks at all. Mirror finish Look at the over all. We checked for runout on the bearing surfaces, and its all but perfect. I would recommend Eagle forged cranks to anyone.

      Hopefully my motor starts getting worked on now.

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      That's just straight porn right there. Nice!
       
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      I like those beveled holes too, from the factory too now.
       
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      hopefully dimas will be posting progress on his fb page as well. make sure you tell me when the dyno run will be. i WILL book off work to see that!
       
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      I want to mention something about piston height and the squish area of the bottom of the head.
      I've learned something about 'quench'. This is super important for detonation resistance. Google it.

      Why I kept ending up with dished pistons, I'll never know. The dished pistons eliminated the quench and made my motor even more prone to detonation. My advice to anyone building a motor is to make sure you go with flat top pistons with valve reliefs. Then adjust head volume as required. Do not go with dished pistons to get the compression down.

      You trust the engine builders as it's what they do. Unfortunately, like anything else, you really can't. I just keep learning.
       
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      That's true, you trust the experts but try to keep up and learn why things are done. The quench is a critical deal, as is valve spring distance to coil bind. That contributes to optimum power and spring life.

      So what are your combustion chamber sizes, and your figures/volumes for the compression?
       
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      I have no idea.

      The valve reliefs i the pistons need to be actually measured, the cc's of the heads need to be actually measured, then a calculation needs to be done as to what the head cc's need to be to reach a target of a compression ratio of 10.2 (That's the target and am assured that if its done properly with chambers softened, and valves un-shrouded some boost will be no issue and I wont have to retard timing to nothing).

      The builder is not concerned at all about making the chambers all the exact size and volume required. The difference this time is that attention to detail is happening.

      Its going to be interesting as to what the final result is. If the motor fails, I won't be trying again.
       

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