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    1. 2000StreetRod

      2000StreetRod Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      Alternator bracket

      This photo shows the Mach 1 alternator bracket (no longer available from Ford) that came with my intake.
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      The coolant crossover tube mounts under the alternator bracket at the front where the alternator mounts. That is clearly shown in this photo of a Mach 1 crate engine.
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      Since the alternators are all the same physical configuration the Aviator crossover should mount with no problem on the Mach 1 intake manifold. However, so far I haven't found a used one for sale. A new one (PN 2C5Z8548DB) is available from Tasca for $72 which is cheaper than a used Mach 1 crossover on eBay.
       
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      I had issues with the crossover tube and fan clearance. I used the mark viii tube but had to cut off and relocate both hose connections. There are 2 threaded ports just above the heads on both sides. I have an ect on pass side and I took the port from the explorer intake and threaded in into the driver's side port. That feeds coolant to my heater core. Out of the heater core goes to back of water pump fitting. If you are not using the mechanical fan assy, you will have more room. The aviator coolant crossover should give you more room also.
       
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      2000StreetRod Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      no electric cooling fan

      Thanks Luke. I wasn't planning on using an electric cooling fan for the radiator - just the stock Explorer radiator, shroud and mechanical fan.

      Do you think the heater coolant return at the rear of the block casting for the water pump is adequate to also accept flow from the rear of the two heads? I've read that it is thin metal and rather flimsy but there is an upgrade available for the nipple and the Mustang tube. Is the only thing that holds the tube to the nipple the O rings?
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      The tube also bolts to the rear or front of the head, depending on the shape of the tube. Mine is coming out the front like the aviator, and is just floating, but my fitting on the water pump is a barbed fitting with a clamp. Only the newer blocks have the slip on fitting with o-rings. If you can run the tube that goes to the rear, you should be fine hooking it up to the rear outlets. I can't remember how you were running your heater hoses, but coming out of those freeze plugs into the heater core then into that water pump fitting would work nicely. And it would look cleaner in the front.
       
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      The Aviator wiring diagram shows the PCV valve being electrically heated and Rock Auto lists the same valve being used on 2002 and later Explorers.
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      But the 2002 Explorer wiring diagram doesn't show the PCV valve. Also, the Aviator drawings show coolant hoses going to and from the PCV valve but the Rock Auto drawing doesn't show that capability. What PCV valve did you use?
       
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      I am using a standard pcv without any heater. I think maybe the electronic heater was only on some v6 explorers, but I would have to do some research to be sure.
       
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      Standard PCV valve

      I was hoping that's what you would post. I'll do the same thing.
       
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      planned coolant flow

      Here's my planned coolant flow diagram using the stock Aviator crossover tube and the Explorer heater control valve.
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      I think I'll purchase the head cooling mod kit that uses hose barb fittings from Modular Mustang Racing because the -AN fittings one interferes with blower intake manifolds.
       
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      This looks like a fun project. Subscribed!
       
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      missed out on 2002 Explorer

      I normally check craigslist several times throughout the day but Sunday I was involved with family things and then my wife and I went to a Christmas concert and to dinner after. When I finally got to the computer there was a black 2002 Explorer listed with RWD, and V8 with "going out oil pump" for $850. I called right away (9 pm) but it was already sold. I really want to find one that is still drivable so I can check out the transmission.
       
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      2002 vs 2003 4.6L V8?

      Does anyone know the differences between a 2002 and a 2003 SOHC 4.6L V8? According to Ford's database the short blocks (2L2Z6006AARM), right heads (6W7Z6049A), left heads (6W7Z6049B), timing covers (2L2Z6019AA), left valve covers (F6AZ6582HA - discontinued), right valve covers (F6AZ6582JA - discontinued), harmonic balancers (1W7Z6312AA), oil pans (1L2Z6675BA), flexplates (1L2Z6375AA) have the same part numbers. The only difference I've found so far is the 2003 intake manifold (2L2Z9424AB) is not listed as fitting the 2002 engine.
       
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      That sucks! $850 is a decent price, I paid $1300 for my donor truck. The engine ran, but the timing chain guides are gone and it kicked several followers off of the cam.
       
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      blown

      Was looking at the same problem and
      found whipple superchargers pricey but also have programer just saying oldrodder
       
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      Programming

      I've already purchased another SCT X3 Power Flash for this project vehicle. Since I already have the SCT Advantage III Racer Pro software package I just need to add another strategy to my license and then I can do my own tuning.
       
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      I was told that that software package was tied to each vehicle just like the flasher. Meaning you have to pay for the same software for each vehicle(flasher). I didn't like to hear that. What have you heard about that Dale?
       
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      Strategy code

      The Advantage III is licensed for a particular strategy. In my case for my Sport it is for CDE4. With that license I can generate a tune for any other vehicle with the same strategy. When I finally find a 2002 Explorer with the V8 I'll expand my license to include the appropriate strategy. I don't know what the additional cost is and won't until I know the strategy. One X3 will be dedicated to my Sport and the other X3 will be dedicated to my 2002. That way I can generate and load into the PCMs an unlimited number of tunes for each vehicle.
       
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      That's right, I forgot, it's the strategy each is tied to. Please let us know what it costs to expand the license to other strategies.
       
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      more answers 4.6?

      Ok here I go again.
      Now driving a cruiser P71 option great street trans shifts tight, engine is sohc and pulls hard
      plus crown vics are cheap 1500 to maybe 2500. Some body with specs on the p71 option
      chime in please.
      Also eagle has a stroker kit that with a thirty over bore gets you to 5.1 L

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      I've been looking for a 2002 or 2003 Explorer with RWD and the V8 in the local area for almost a year. Today I test drove a 2002 Eddie Bauer in good interior and exterior condition with 121K miles on the odometer.
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      The only mechanical issue is a slight 2 > 3 upshift flair after the transmission is warmed up. No engine knocks so probably no spun bearings like on the Aviator engine I bought. Unfortunately, the seller can't let me buy the vehicle until he finds a suitable pickup truck to replace it. I'd like to get it in the next 43 days so I can reuse my Volvo Turbo Wagon tag. For a V8 I was surprised at how sluggish it was for normal acceleration from a stop. But then it's heavier than my Sport, the A/C was running, and it doesn't have a supercharger to assist low end torque. The head gaskets were replaced a year ago and the heads resurfaced. The transmission was rebuilt by a national franchised shop 3 years ago. Since it's going to cost me $3500 I'll drive it as it is for a while before pulling the engine. During that time I'll try to understand the cooling system and determine how to modify it for the DOHC heads. I doubt there's enough room to install the DOHC heads with the block in the engine compartment. The heads won't help low end torque so I know I won't be satisfied until there's a blower on the engine.
       
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      That trans flare is more than likely a worn servo pin bore in the case. It's very common on this trans. Most rebuilders have a repair kit to install brass sleeves, but the trans has to be completely torn down to do it. There are 2 bores that wear out. The 3rd gear band/ intermediate band and the 2nd/5th gear band/ overdrive band. if I were you, I would just drive it until you do the swap, then get it rebuilt. It's going to probably need some upgrades with the new power anyway. My old explorer didn't have 3rd gear at all when I bought it, the band had completely broke. It was common on the 2002 explorer also. I drove it for 6 months like that.
       
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      worn servo pin bore

      What do you think about the following as an interim fix until I get the transmission beefed up? 5R55W, 5R55S, 5R55N, 5R55E Servo Bore Transmission Fix.
      Do you have a suggested source for a kit to allow the trans to reliably handle 400 to 450 rwhp when it gets rebuilt? How about a suggested torque converter for street driving (no racing at a drag strip)?
       
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      not the white Eddie Bauer

      Well the guy that was going to sell me the 2002 white Eddie Bauer notified me today that he's decided to keep it and fix the transmission so he can sell it for more to buy the truck he wants. I suppose its good that I didn't get it since I've learned that the early 2002 has different rods than my 2003 Aviator. Hopefully I won't have to wait another year before a local RWD becomes available.
       
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      There will probably be some flooded units available soon near you.
       
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      flood damaged vehicles

      Sad but true. We were lucky in Greenville because it is in the foothills with good drainage. I've already seen vehicles listed for sale as no flood damage. By the way, I'm scheduled to look at a 2003 Limited this evening with no problems other than having 180K miles on the odometer. It is a one owner all black (bumpers and body) with sunroof and 3rd row seating for $3,400. I told the guy on the phone if it is actually as he described I'd buy it. Funny how things change.
       

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