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Discussion in 'Home Improvement' started by Josh P, May 6, 2017.

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  1. Josh P

    Josh P Shaggin Wagon Elite Explorer

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    Back in 2007 when I bought this house the pool in the back yard was partially filled in with dirt. The concrete had cracks and wouldn't hold water. I had to finish filling it in to close on the house. I regretted having to do it cause of the additional work it created to remove the pool later. 30 yards of concrete has been hauled off so far. As you can see in the pictures the house still needs a lot of work. I don't have a friend in the world when it comes to home improvement.

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  3. RangerX

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    Why are you removing it?
     
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    Josh P Shaggin Wagon Elite Explorer

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    I get free use of the excavators and dump trailer from work. I want to plant a second tree in the back yard, and the pool takes up most of the space so it would be a potted plant waiting to fall on the house. Now that the pool is removed I can install a geothermal ground loop for cooling the house. I'll drill 2 holes in the deep end of the pit to get below the 20 foot mark. Ground temp stays in the low 60 degree range year round at that depth.
     
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    Wow, that's a lot of work.

    I thought several wells were needed for geothermal cooling due to the thermal exchange in the wells. Once you start exchanging heat down there they warm up.

    I'm referring to memory , a system I saw for a roughly 1800 sq ft house in the ozarks had 18 wells. 1 for every 100 sq ft. and that system was used in conjuction with an electric ac unit.
     
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    Josh P Shaggin Wagon Elite Explorer

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    Only another 12 yards of concrete to haul off then that portion of the job will be complete. Looks like my yard used to be a river bed that was filled in. Final depth of the 2 holes is 26 feet. If anyone is wondering, there are specific calculations that need to be preformed to determine loop length, bore depth based on soil type, etc, etc. The size of the pool is too small of a foot print for a system of 3 tons to work properly so I will bore holes 20 feet deep down on both sides of the house and run with it... 20170512_132949.jpg 20170512_135147.jpg 20170512_141548.jpg 20170512_155335.jpg 20170512_155341.jpg
     
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    I was curious about how old the pool was, so I looked on the county website at the aerial photos. Best I can tell, it was installed between 1964 and 1969. Original owner sold in 93, and that is when the condition went down hill. Screenshot from 2017-05-14 10:17:34.png Screenshot from 2017-05-14 10:17:57.png Screenshot from 2017-05-14 10:06:10.png Screenshot from 2017-05-14 10:14:33.png Screenshot from 2017-05-14 10:15:17.png Screenshot from 2017-05-14 10:16:19.png
     
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    Josh P Shaggin Wagon Elite Explorer

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    If I didn't have bad luck, my life would go pretty smooth. Down to the last load of concrete to be removed from the back yard and the excavator needs a new track, my block wall has a window in it now, expedited the cracks in the joints. This job is far from over, but I've been over it for weeks.
     
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    Made some progress. One more day of cleaning to go then I can start building a new block wall. 20170531_162707.jpg 20170531_163731.jpg 20170531_163808.jpg
     
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    2 years later. Next project thread will be about cleaning that electrical panel up. 20190402_171943.jpg 20190427_185513.jpg
     
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    @Josh P
    Would you mind stating where in the Phoenix area you are located? The homes appear fairly large for their lot sizes. Our first was in Maryvale, north of Indian School on 58th. Ave. The lot was wedge-shaped, but lots of square footage to mess around with.

    Are you familiar with the Laveen area? My most intensive effort. 1800 sq. ft., red clay brick veneer all around, detached brick shop 34 X 24 ft, connected to house by 40 ft. of red brick wall 6 ft. high. All concrete mixed in Sears electric mixer, wheelbarrow-poured, hand finished, stemwall and slab in 4X8' sections. 90,000 lbs of concrete!

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    Only "farmed-out" job was the septic tank and leech-field. Roof trusses were hand-built. Took 3 years, 1985-'88. Lived in it till '99. Care to look, take a spin down 51st. Ave. ~ 2 mi. south of Baseline Rd., east on Estrella to 47th. Ave, left 2 streets to Gumina, right on that, it's only 5 blocks long.
     
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    90k lbs is pretty impressive. I've completed a few concrete projects this year. I added 55 feet to my driveway and did the shed pad. I plan to put a gazebo next to the shed so I have shade to work on my projects. I live near I17 and Northern. 20190309_092625.jpg 20190309_093915.jpg 20190309_093755.jpg 20190322_160118.jpg 20190323_145519.jpg 20190406_161952.jpg
     
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    That panel gives me anxiety, lol.
     
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    Josh P Shaggin Wagon Elite Explorer

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    Split bus with no main disconnect for the top half. It met code when originally installed, most of the mess hanging off the side of the panel is no longer used.
     
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    I remember now, you told me before. Old mind, failing memory. Hey, all that rebar suggests possibility of a car lift......imp
     
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    Josh P Shaggin Wagon Elite Explorer

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    I used twice the rebar needed and made it 6 inches thick. I'm thinking it would be nice to have a car lift. The block wall at the end of the driveway will get replaced with a 12 foot wide gate for access from the alley.
     
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    I figgered all that rebar was for something! Nice going! I'm gonna go 4-post soon as my wife goes to visit her mother! You sure don't want to ever witness this:

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    Sometimes, you get what you spend. I'd rather have a 2 post lift so I can pick the body up off the axles. when I was a truck driver, I used a Frito lay trailer with a 4 post lift in the back to haul cars. the pump was replaced with a 12v unit. E track bars and aluminum plates for the upper deck.
     
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