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Discussion in 'Offroad Projects' started by R.J., December 6, 2017.

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    1. R.J.

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      I think I figured out my noise.....

      I've had a clunking noise coming from the rear of the car for some time now. Especially on left turns.
      So I was messing around with some different shackle lengths today, thinking they might be the problem (which didn't work out very good) but I flexed the suspension to check some things and I noticed that my body mounts were lifting off of the frame.

      So now I need body mounts. And hardware since mine are rusted out.

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    3. R.J.

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      Haven't posted anything in a while. Haven't done much to it other than chasing down a brake issue that was finally figured out.

      But now I finally have something to post. Spent the money on some decent shocks

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      They are Bilstein 7100 10" short body shocks. Hopefully they'll be decent for a mix of different trails.
       
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      Those shocks should work well for the B2. You get the body mounts changed?
       
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      Not yet. I have the body mounts and hardware from James duff sitting in a box. Waiting for me to get to it.
       
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      I went with the Bilstein shocks because they make them with a short body option. So fitting them under the floor of the bronco and keep the mounts high on the axle for ground clearance. Which to me was more important than having a larger shock body, like a 2.5" shock, which would work much better for desert and high speed stuff. At least this is mono tube, has a reservoir, and is revalveable. Valving is a difference maker on shocks. I had to take a guess with bilsteins weird valving numbers as to what would work well for me. I got them in 275/78 valving. I know desert suspensions like lots of compression valving and quick rebound valving. But not sure what works well in rock crawling. So hopefully this will be a good starting point.

      First thing I had to do was swap the heim for a bushing for the upper mount. My upper mount is larger than the 1/2" heim.

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      Looks so cool!
       
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      Now my shocks are no longer the limiting factor on my rear suspension. It's at around 11" of travel now.

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      Cool. I would put the rod end back and get spacers to make up the difference. It will reduce the strain on that single sheer upper mount. As far as rock crawling and valving. I took the advice of @sirhk100, a guy who is rarely on the forum anymore. He walked me through valving, springs, etc. He is the shock guy for a racing team in Vegas. He said when building a multi-purpose rig, to valve shocks for going fast and not worry about the slow stuff. Good shocks have bypasses to allow the oil to pass freely when there is little to no pressure on them, like when going slow.
       
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      The rod end wont physically fit the upper mount. I had to take the rod end out because the upper mount stud is a larger diameter than the 1/2" rod end. It works with a standard rubber bushing without the sleeve in it. A lot of Toyota guys have to do the same thing. And I am worried about that mount breaking and ruining $175 shock.
       
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      I ran those same shocks for a while and did the same thing using a bushing. Worked awesome, you'll be happy with those.
       
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      Who did you order them thru? New shocks are on my list.
       
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      I bought them on eshocks.com. it was the cheapest place I found.
       
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      Had the transmission go out. So I swapped in a used on I had. Then I was having a misfire

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      4.0 time:D

      The drivetrain is about ready to come out of the Navajo for you.
       
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      It's due for a 4.0
      If anything major breaks on this 2.9, it's going to get parked until the 4.0 goes in.

      It's running fine right now. Hopefully that cylinder with the bad plug is ok.
       
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      Drove to the Colorado River yesterday .On the way home I noticed a ton of smoke billowing out behind my car. Pulled over to check it out and trans fluid was leaking out from the bell housing. The temp guage for the trans never showed it over heating, but it looks like the front seal went bad. I still drove it home, but had to drive slow and easy to keep the tranny from puking. If I was revving out the car for a few minutes it would start spitting fluid again. Which was difficult with all the head wind on the way home.

      Not sure what I want to do with it yet.

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      Navajo's trans is out and ready to go. Should bolt up. Should not be to hard or long for me to pull the pedal assembly out.
       
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      Well, that didn't last very long..
       
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      I know! And it was working so well! It still shifts and operates fine, other than the smoke show it had..
       
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      It's tempting.

      I really want to keep it an automatic trans. But the manual would give more reliability and better gas mileage. But more work to drive. I don't mind stick shifts in small cars with light clutches and small shifters, but not a fan of manual trucks and SUVs.

      What I really want is a 700r4. But I don't have the $$ right now. So for reliability's sake maybe I should swap to a stick. I do want to drive this car long distances, and the a4ld is not giving me any peace of mind.
       
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      And in thinking about the manual conversion, I would want to swap the 1,2, & 3rd gears in the trans to the lower ratio ones from non 4.0 model trucks. So that's more work too.
       
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      When I was installing the current trans, I noticed it looked pretty fresh on the inside. Maybe this was a problem the previous owner already tried to fix?

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      Hence why I'm putting a auto in the Navajo.
       
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      I don't want a manual :(
      Maybe I should do like 410fortune and swap a v8 4r70w. A4LD trouble was what led him to the swap too.
       
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      The trans shop that we work with quoted me $800 for a rebuild. Bench job so I'd pull the trans myself. Which is a decent price. And then I don't have to mess with any swapping or clutching or shifting. But I still worry cause I've heard the horror stories of rebuilt a4lds that only last a year or two.
       
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      When my 5R55E (based off the A4LD) went out in JP in 2004ish, the Ford dealer told me they could rebuild it and I'll be back in a year or for $700 more they could just order a brand new one. 50k later you can see what choice I made.

      This is also why I jumped on one for the Navajo from a wrecked Ranger with only 45k
       

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