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Discussion in 'Stock 2011 - 2019 Ford Explorer Discussion' started by jwsnell00, August 20, 2012.

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  1. Forddealz

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    If you are paying 3K-4K extra for a CPO, you have to read what is covered and what is not and how many point inspection was done on a CPO. I know some manufacturers like BMW have 160 point inspection and some have less. Some just open your hood, check the fluids, brakes and tires. I am not sure if they will lean backwards to check the wiper blades. Factory wiper blades will only last about a year but aftermarket Rain X blades or similar are much more durable and will not leave any watery streaks on the windshield for years.
     
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  3. gday

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    The wiper blades are more a thorn in my side but according the FORD CPO brochure:

    http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/global/pdf/cpo/ford_program_brochure.pdf

    CPO vehicles are supposed to have "A full tank of fuel, fresh oil and filter, and new wiper blades at delivery" - so its pretty clear that didn't happen. As far as the shift lever, I'm lead to believe its problem is with its internal switch - and again from the CPO doc, switches are listed as covered - but the definition of "switch" seems open to debate.

    -mick
     
  4. blwnsmoke

    blwnsmoke Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    If your MFT version was at 3.8 the ambient lighting TSB does not apply. And if you are running 3.6.2 upgrade to 3.8 on your own and they don't have to do the TSB.
     
  6. gday

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    Very interesting. So within a few days of owning the car I researched the ambient lighting problem and the TSB fix and made a note of it - at the same time I updated MFT to 3.6.2. Never did research this again. Given your post, I went to see what version was available to me - and I suspect you can guess what I find. Yes for my $100 my "SYNC Software Update History" shows they updated my MFT to 3.8 today!

    -mick
     
  7. LukerDooker

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    Mine has this and its happening pretty much daily on half the starts/turn-offs.
    It started out once or twice a week and is now frequent.

    Im taking it in for service this coming week.
    FYI for anyone who is taking theirs in and you want to make sure they can recreate the issue - ask them to test also using accessory mode.
    More chance that it may happen than just starting/stopping the car.
     
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    So I will be doing this repair by myself but I'm in no hurry. In reading this thread, its very unclear exactly where the problem is and what part is faulty and what part needs to be changed. So today I started with checking the cable adjustment as per the procedure posted earlier in this thread. I disconnected the cable from the selector arm and it became very clear that the selector arm is detented and by that I mean is very easy to manually place it into the park position thus preventing any interference by the cable/gear lever assembly. And so with the arm in park, cable disconnected and the gear shift level in park, I played with the shift lever button and 20% of the time, park was not indicated. So in my situation, the cable adjustment is totally bogus and has no bearing on the issue.

    So to conclude, let me suggest that if you have this issue and M, D, N and R are correctly selected by your shift lever without any problems, the cable adjustment is not your issue.

    Tomorrow I will be disassembling the center console to investigate further.

    -mick
     
  9. LukerDooker

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    In mine - once car is off, I am in P,
    STP is displayed,
    Drivers consoles are black,
    error chime plays,
    no gear letters are lit,
    drivers seat stays up in my position,
    Then I can press the shift button a few times and it registers properly,
    P lights red in the gear display,
    chime stops,
    drivers seat goes to normal position,
    Open door
    Drivers console fades to black & MFT shuts down

    Sometimes opening door after this:

    Chime sounds,
    Shift to Park displayed,
    Driver consoles are all white,
    No gear letters are lit,
    Press shift button a few times,
    All goes to normal as above.

    Mine is the Shift knob and its button.
     
  10. peterk9

    peterk9 Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    I believe that is what the identified problem is in all those with this issue.

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    I'm pretty sure this case has been closed for a while now. Several years, I believe. It's the shifter itself, the "trigger" button mechanism to be exact. Change the shifter, fix the problem...
     
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    PS. I'm still pretty pissed I was one of the original Guinea pigs that had this problem and because toms ford in NJ couldn't figure out the problem, they lied to ford reps and said I was irate and scaring the other customers in the service dept and insist I'm never to come back there. Didn't stop me from leasing 2 more explorers since then. :) still a good SUV. Lol
     
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    I think that you could probably lump all 2011 owners into the "Guinea Pig" category. :D

    Peter
     
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    Yes, but most didn't have to deal with a s*bag dealer that because of their lack of skills blame the customer... ;) see, told you I was still sore about it. Lmao
     
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    Four days ago I made a post soon after I did the cable adjustment - See:
    And now I'm totally lost. Since the above post, I reassembled things, removed the side panels to the console and had to stop since I ran out of time - my plans were to continue on this coming weekend. The "problem" is that the "Shift to Park" issue has not returned. I've driven the car multiple times each day including 1 120 mile trip. No problems. Park works 100%. WTF!

    I always thought this issue was weird given all the posts.... So I'm on standby waiting for the problem to return.. :banghead:

    -mick
     
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    Went with TSB info for this during normal Works service; dealer changed my shifter and its fixed. Service rep at desk said he knew of the issue & when i offered pics he said no need.
     
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    Must be getting near the end of your factory warranty. Getting a lot of your issues fixed I see. :):thumbsup:

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    2 weeks left!:eek:
    ... and have to go back for stuff they forgot.
     
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    I recently had my shifter replaced. When the lights are on should the selected drive be lit up orange? Currently all of my lights are blue regardless of if its in park or drive. I honestly can't remember if your current drive is supposed to be lit differently.
     
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    Whatever gear you are in should be orange
     
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    Okay. Mine all stay blue on the center console. The dash is orange.

    I think they forgot to plug something back in.
     

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