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Discussion in 'Stock 2011 - 2019 Ford Explorer Discussion' started by 1995E, January 21, 2012.

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    1. thefranchise713

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      I tried snow mode the other day in very deep snow and couldn't figure out the difference. It might have shifted a little sooner than usual, but I can't be sure. Normal worked just as well in my experience.
       
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      50 cm = about 20", right? That's a lot of snow!

      No wonder you guys need snow tires.
       
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      Didn't try Normal, actually, but there's a stretch of lawn next to our driveway that I'll go through to see if there's a difference.
      I'm only about 30 mins north of London and know that they did get quite a bit (this area is called the Snow Belt, after all), but since they plow and salt heavily, it'll be mostly a slushy nasty mess by now.

      I think the main difference is the throttle is much softer to try and prevent wheel spin. I'll try and see what I find.

      Yes, about 20" - hasn't snowed this much here in a long time though. Winter tires sure make a difference. I was also able to get through the same tracks the XLT made in my '17 Jetta FWD with Michelin X-Ice3s. Only got stuck once on a portion where a deeper layer of snow had compacted too much and the Jetta kinda beached itself on it, removing weight from the wheels.

      Drive safely, folks!
       
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      Like futureboy said, snow mode reduces the sensitivity of the throttle, so 1/2 throttle input in snow mode is more like 1/4 throttle input in normal mode.
      Yes, the transmission should shift to the next higher gear at a much slower speed.
      The traction control is much more intrusive. If you get the wheels to spin, you notice the traction control is very active in preventing wheel spin.
      Last, I believe the snow mode will more readily transfer power to the rear wheels to have move even power distribution.

      All this is to reduce/prevent wheel spin in the snow(or slippery surfaces).
       
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      Weird, I didn't note any of that save for a single shorter shift. Throttle felt the same as did the AWD calibration.
       
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      I got a couple photos before we started shovelling.
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      Toyo has an "All Weather" tire out called the Celsius. Consumer Reports tested it and it did as well, or better than a lot of winter tires. And they can be used all year. For us "Southerners" who only get occasional snow from December to March, I think these would be a very good option.
       
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      futureboy- The snow makes for nice pictures, but honestly you can keep it in "The Great White North". Enjoy
       
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      Funny, I took my Explorer out in the snow for the first time yesterday. Horrible! My jeep is 100 times better in the snow! I hope it was the fault of the Michelin Latitude tires.
       
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      If you weren't using dedicated Winter tires, then that is a big reason for the "Horrible" experience. '3 season' tires aren't built for Winter driving.

      Peter
       
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      I hate to be the bandwagon here for winter tire sales, but Peter's 100% correct. I've never had an all season I was truly happy with. I've driven on Latitudes on the Escape I used to have years ago--one of those early/late snowfall situations. Nothing compares to a snow tire that'll make the Explorer truly unstoppable.
       
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      If it’s working properly the entire point is for it to be transparent. I’m quite sure there’s a lot of variable changes behind the scenes you can’t detect.
       
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      I tried using 'Snow' mode for a short drive and felt that it sort of 'dumbed down' the acceleration from a stand still. Didn't have it on long enough to experience anything else.
      I usually just leave it in 'Normal' mode even on snow packed roads but may try "snow' mode again just to see. BTW, I use Winter tires.

      Peter
       
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      Understood, but the point was that I couldn't figure out how it was any better than normal mode.

      If they deleted that switch from the console I wouldn't miss it one bit.
       
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      What is the deepest the Explorer can go through in snow or have been in before it’s to high. Can it do 18”?
       
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      That’s an impossible question to answer. There is no depth. It depends on how heavy the snow is, how cold it is, what the base is, your tires, driving skill, and dumb luck.
       
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      There has to be a certain clearance before you start pushing the snow instead of going through it.
      Would be stock tires on snow covered grass in freezing to sub freezing temperatures. Not sure how heavy the snow is, I like the dumb luck part cause there are times you may go one way in snow but can’t get back out
       
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      In the right snow conditions, it’s be whatever the lowest part of your bumper or front fascia is.
       
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      The advertised Minimum Running Ground Clearance is 7.8". As far as sub freezing temperatures and stock tires, that is probably the worst combination you can possibly have since the stock tires start to lose optimum grip at 44 F because they don't have the same rubber compound that allows true Winter tires to remain flexible in cold temperature. Even on bare roads, those stock tires won't have the same grip and safety as Winter tires especially in a hard braking situation.

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      I posted this in the wheels and tires section but that doesn't seem to be a good spot.

      I live in California, in snow/ice conditions the requirement is 4WD + snow tires or chains--it's black and white. I've considered buying snow tires and keeping them installed all winter. They would certainly wear down much faster but I would think I could get three winters out of them. I have a three year lease so I will certainly end up replacing the stocks as I put about 20k miles a year. With the snow tire rotation, I may be able to make the stocks last the duration of the lease.

      On a side note: I was up in the snow last weekend. We spent about four hours in 25 deg F temp with snow off an on the whole time. Road remained largely clear from traffic but I had no issues at all during the descent, rear wheels didn't engage once.

      Any thoughts on the tires? I have the stock Hankook 255/50R20 for reference. Thanks
       
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      For the mostpart, SoCal's don't need winter tires, unless you go way up north or towards Big Bear. Hard to justify the cost for potentially a handful of times. The stock tires are absolutely terrible in real snow conditions, and combined with such a heavy car, you'll just keep sliding should you ever hit icy conditions. If I were you, I'd go with chains and carry them. Put them on only when you need to. It'll be a lot cheaper for the rare time you'll encounter bad conditions.

      I on the other hand have dedicated winters, because I live in a climate where we get cold weather and snow and I have a ski habit. With snow tires in warm weather (temps above 45F / 7C), your tires will be too soft and wear too fast.
       
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