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Sport EcoBoost 3.5L Tuning

Discussion in 'Modified 2011- 2019 Explorers - Tuning & Mods' started by Sgt1411, August 15, 2016.

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    1. mjlkwolfe@gmail.

      mjlkwolfe@gmail. eco boost fan Elite Explorer

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      Hi All
      Been watching this forum for years now
      Retired automotive engineer here
      Have had a 2011 F150 with 3.5L ECO Boost & Livernois tune.
      Drove over 100k miles with no problems
      Have had a 2013 flex with the 3.5: ECO Boost with Livernois Tune
      Drove over 75K miles with no problems
      Have a 2103 Taurus SHO with performance package & livernois tune
      will do 0-60MPH in 3.9 seconds & 12.4 seconds quarter mile
      Has 25K miles on it
      Love the car
      Have a 2016 Explorer Sport with Livernois tune
      Has 55k miles on it
      Very quick & dependable
      Plan to trade the Explorer for 2019 or 2020 explorer platinum
      will install livernois tune the day after I get it
      The ECO boost vehicles are kind of lackluster with factory calibration
      Livernois tune really wakes them up
      Ford fan with ECO Boost & livernois tunes forever
      Have always used 91-93 octane premium in everything I own
      Not sure why anyone would not want to use their calibrations
       
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    3. metroplex

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      It's mainly because the initial EcoBoost tunes on the market were crap (not saying Livernois but I don't recall any of their early tunes breaking into 12s initially). No one really knew what they were doing. Only SCT had a lot of the settings opened for the Pro Racer Package, and eventually HPTuners supported EcoBoost which opened up access to a lot more tuners. But they didn't finish opening up all of the settings until late 2016 or early 2017 and that was for the transverse Gen 1 ecoboost engines. I know for a fact when I started working on my 2014 SHO tune in 2016 that not many SHOs were running in the low 12s and no one was willing to share except for a few. I worked with these tuners, and other drag racers and we basically ironed out what was needed. Prior to this, the guys running low 12s or high 11s had meth injection, catless downpipes, hot air intake, etc... but I basically proved that you can get a SHO tune-only into low 12s with worn out tires and a 3 year old dirty paper air filter. There are several ideas on how to tune the EcoBoost and there aren't many aftermarket tunes that I like for the SHO.
       
    4. mjlkwolfe@gmail.

      mjlkwolfe@gmail. eco boost fan Elite Explorer

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      OK
      Whose calibration are using?
       
    5. Sgt1411

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      Where are you getting 93 Octane in AZ?......When Im in Goodyear I cant find it anywhere.
       
    6. mjlkwolfe@gmail.

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      I use the 93 octane calibration with 91 octane fuel. I have had no issues doing so
       
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      Hey all been doing a lot of reading and discussing with friends lately on the modding of my Ex. I have a 17 Sport and really want more out of it because I had to sell my truck because the family is growing. Also am a member of other forums / FB groups and I really like the involvement in this forum.

      Question I have in regards to tunes.
      1, CAI and Exhausts are they really necessary for just getting more out of the engine in a daily driver?
      2. Especially the exhaust, do you get anything out of it without doing the down pipes? other than sound. I know the old adage of more air in more air out but if you look at the more popular Borla Cat Back exhaust for the explorer it is 2.25' and I believe that is what is stock also. so in the end you just get a better sound?
      3. It seems like the most important upgrade, and isn't talked a lot about, is the oil catch.

      Want to hear your opinions. Want to tune right away and may do a CAI with it but reluctant to do the exhaust until more companies make affordable down pipes.
       
    8. metroplex

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      Just get a tune. Don't bother with the other mods. An E30 tune will get you close to 500 hp. The hot air intakes are worthless. Exhaust mods don't do anything other than make it sound like a ricer. Downpipes can help but not enough to justify the effort and cost for the meager gains at the track.
       
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      Unless you can get a used set... Then they're music to your ears!
       
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      According to posts here the CAI by itself has been found to be a waste of money.
      As for catch cans, there are threads on that where you can post questions; Oil catch can / who has installed it and how much oil becomes "catched" ?, Running an OCC (Oil Catch Can) on the 3.5L Ecoboost, RX Performance catch can for Explorer Sport
      From what I've read here is that a CAI and tune will give you the best 'bang for the buck'. Just keep in mind that mods may affect the warranty. If a part failed and it is linked to the modification, the warranty will not cover it. Best to have a read of the Warranty Guide. Good luck.

      Peter
       
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      The CAI can cause more harm by allowing hot air to be ingested. Track heat soak is serious and the best cold air intake is the stock sealed box. Don't even need a K&N panel as the paper filter flows 53 lb /min of air. The Dyno charts are misleading because they are run with an open hood in a controlled environment.
       
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      Just bought an Explorer Sport this week. This post solidified it for me. Definitely will be getting a Livernois tune. I assume you can take it off and on whenever you want like going in for warranty work?
       
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      Yes, you can I do it all the time.
       
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      As far as getting a tune (in this case Livernois), is it worth getting the thermostat and the 3 bar map sense along with the tuner or are those not worth it either?
       
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      Yes on the 3 bar, and thermostat I'm still "iffy" on. Search my name, and thermostat to see my response on another thermostat thread.
       
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      3 Bar for the livernois yes. It's not a blanket answer, you have to look at each tune. Some will recommend it and some will not. If your "tuner" recommends it than yes you "have to" as they will use the higher parameters. Livernois does recommend it with their tune.
       
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      Hi everyone, new to the forum but have been reading countless threads on doing a tune for the 2017 Explorer Sport.
      I finally went with the Livernois package of CAI, tuner, plugs, 160 thermostat and 3 bar.
      I’m running the 93 performance tune and I absolutely LOVE it.
      This is how this car should come from the factory.
      The upgrades seemed to wake this vehicle up, or as my wife commented, it’s like you’ve been driving with a parking brake on the whole time and now it’s off.
      No problems, I couldn’t find a place to review Livernois to give them 5 stars but I’ll say it here!!!
       
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      Welcome to the Forum Kev&Stacy.:wave:

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      What Tune and What year are you talking about getting 500HP from a Ex Sport? Is that even possible?
       
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      I'm planning on tuning mine either tonight or tomorrow, I received the 91 perf tune from livernois and will be installing the 3 bar map sensor.

      How long did it take for the "hard shifts" to adapt to your driving style?

      Thanks.
       
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      It took about two weeks but it’s not bad the whole time it just gets smoother. Every now and then I still get a kick when shifting 2nd to 3rd and even with almost 90k miles I can even get a chirp from the tires. It’s a nice reminder that I have the HP just waiting for me to let it goooooo.
       
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      They haven't changed the SHO/Explorer Sport engine/turbo combo since they debuted. The ECU has changed over the years though. But 48-50 lb/min air flow is what you get when it is tuned. Throw in E30 fuel, and you can increase spark for more power as well. SHOs are running low 12s with tune-only, so the Explorer Sports are just slightly slower due to being heavier.
       
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      Noob question here:

      In order to remove the engine cover, you have to remove the oil cap correct? Is there a recommended time frame after the vehicle has been driven (5-10 miles) that I should let it cool down prior to taking the oil cap off or is it the same either way since I am just taking it off to remove the cover?

      Thanks.
       
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      I've only taken mine off once and I believe I had to remove the cap. The cap can be removed at any time. It's not like a radiator cap.

      Peter
       
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      There's a gasket around the oil cap where the engine cover clips onto. You can remove the oil cap so the gasket comes off with the cover. I just lifted the cover off the gasket. It feels like it will tear the gasket, but I kept doing this on the SHO without any issues. I didn't like the idea of dust/grit possibly falling into the fill tube. I'd inspect the Explorer Sport to make sure it is the same design, but from what I have seen, it is the same engine cover with different text.
       
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      Thanks, was able to flash the 91 tune last night with the 3 bar MAP sensor and it seems to be quite an upgrade for normal city driving.

      Haven't tried WOT on the highways yet but looking forward to it!
       

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