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Suspension/alignment issue - can't get correct camber on front left

Discussion in 'Stock 1995 - 2001 Explorers' started by jkk9, July 16, 2011.

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      jkk9 New Member

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      97 4.0L OHV. 260K miles. 2 wheel drive.
      Just replaced left upper control arm due to bad ball joint. Alignment guy says that wheel's camber is at +0.4 (top side tilts out) with the camber bolt at its max; the spec says -1.0 to 0.0. He says suspension can cause that - worn springs for example. Does that make sense?
       
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      idk if it does but i have the same problem the alignment dude told me i needed a camber kit to align the camber correctly n was charging me 300 for it.. to install the camber kit and align it.. if anybody know how to do it or can post a how to video on that it would be great... also a good camber kit
       
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      You can get the caster camber kits for both sides from rockauto.com for $43.58, Moog part number K80065, this was for my '97 Mounty, It's the same kit I used on my '03 Sport Trac so it's the same as the Explorer. You can install the kits in about 10-15 minutes each side. You're just replacing the upper control arm bolts with the kit. Easy...
       
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      If an alignment tech told you that "worn springs" would cause a positive camber issue, I'd be sure to never let him touch my vehicle again.
       
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      Seriously, there isn't even springs on the front of the 2nd Gen Ex's. Never go back there again. Where the hell is he coming up with the $300 to do the C/C kit and alignment??? Most shops charge $50-70 for and alignment and it only takes about 10-15 minutes on each side so what does he charge for larbor rates, damn. Firestone does lifetime alignments for $179 and you could take it back every week for that price.
       
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      I misspoke a bit. The counter guy told me that worn springs can cause this problem - it wasn't the guy who did the alignment (as I asked who did it).

      It was done at Firestone as I have the lifetime alignment - bought it as a $99 special years ago.

      I bought the Moog K80065 Cam Bolt Kit from Amazon for $23 but then discovered that the Ex had them already.

      I think I'll take it to another Firestone shop.
       
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      Ya, the only issue with the lifetime alignments is usually the first one is done by a Pro tech and then they have fresh tech school newbies/ new hires do them. You have to really be insistant on having someone better do the job so you don't chew through parts and tires.
       
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      I usually ask for the spec sheet - I think I can trust it. That's how I found out that the LF was at -1 - it was in red ink. They just told me it was done - they didn't tell me that it was out of spec.

      Maybe Honesty left the culture about the time they kicked God out of schools ...
       

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