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SYNC 3 in a 2016 Explorer

Discussion in '2011-2016 My Ford Touch / In Vehicle Technology' started by jmr061, February 13, 2016.

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    DeLeSaAZ Beasley, the chauffeur of my previous Edge. Elite Explorer

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    I wonder why it would take so long for your phone to pair with your Sync/MFT. I have a Samsung Note 5, partner has an iPhone (whatever is newest) and both phones are paired and ready to go before I'm even settled in and have my seatbelt on (not both phones at once, obviously). And we've never had a Favorite phone mix-up, either, even when we get in at the same time.

    I'm certainly not saying the system is without faults! It really is quite glitchy and does some interesting/annoying issues and, within 6 weeks of having it, had to do the hard reset. I had a 2013 Edge Limited for just shy of 4 years before this and I honestly can't remember having any problems with the Edge MFT/Sync. I will say that I LOVE having the cooled seats in the Explorer (and it's not even been hot since buying it) as well as the heated steering wheel (touch of arthritis in my hands so it feels good even when not cold), but I miss the rain-sensing wipers in the Edge. The silly little conveniences we just take for granted!
     
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    Im pretty sure the latest MFT v3.10 deals with improved bluetooth connectivity with a broader range of smartphones. The bigger issue seems to be the release of v3.10 being miscommunicated by Ford as some people can get it and some can't, some dealers will do it and some wont.
     
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    I just installed a Sync 3 upgrade on my 2016. So far so good! There is one U3000 error on the APIM that I haven't figured out otherwise everything is working fine. Note that for CarPlay you'll need to use part HU5Z19A387A, not the dual port hub. Otherwise you won't be able to use the secondary USB port. I put the new GPS antenna on the base of the original antenna behind the IPC. After the install and programming it is important to lock the car with the engine off for 5 minutes. This will reset the module communication.

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    Looks great, love to have it. How does the IPC work?
     
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    No issues at all with the IPC, just make sure you disconnect the stock GPS Module or the compass will bounce back and forth. Everything works on it (radio info, street names, turn by turn, speed limit, phone)
     
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    Where exactly do you disconnect the stock GPS module?

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    Once you remove the stock APIM, it is located to the left near the instrument panel cluster. There is a connecter there that you need to press on to release it. It took me a while as it is in a small space but I did not need to remove any additional dash trim, after that I mounted the new GPS antenna on top of the old GPS module with hi-temp double-stick tape(note: if your antenna has a label and magnet under it, remove that first as it doesn't stick well) then secured the unused cable and new GPS cable to the main wiring harness with F4 silicone tape.

    The GPSM looks just like the one mentioned in this thread:
    http://www.2gfusions.net/showthread.php?tid=3881&page=1

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    After I did my upgrade, the compass bounced back and forth until I drive the Explorer around for a few miles then it stopped and is working perfect now without disconnecting the stock GPS. Everything is working perfect with Sync 3 and I love Apple CarPlay.
     
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    On mine I had an error code on the APIM indicating a communication issue with the IPC, this resolved itself when I disconnected the stock GPS. This is probably just a difference between instrument panels in the Sport and Platinum models. I know that people upgrading Fusions have left the stock GPS in place in for the compass to work while Mustang owners had to pull their stock GPS or it resulted in errors. My compass still works with the stock GPS disconnected.
     
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    I did some more testing with Sync 3 and everything works very well including all of the AppLink apps(AccuWeather, Pandora, etc), the SpeedPass+ app shows my vehicle correctly and allows me to pay for fuel from my dash. The fuel level even syncs to the app on my phone.

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    That installation looks amazing. Are you following instructions online? Or what component did you buy? I would love to try and do it in my 2016 Platinum. The Sync3 in rentals I've had is so much more responsive, and Car Play is a great addition.
     
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    Thanks, it was fairly easy to swap out. I couldn't find any instructions specific to the Explorer. You just need to make sure you buy a Sync 3 unit with the correct mounting bracket for an Explorer. The trim pieces pull off but it helps to have trim removal tools. The USB hub(for CarPlay - Ford Part HU5Z19A387A) was the hardest part to replace because the cables were tied down and there wasn't any slack to work with.
     
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    Here is the APIM programming data I used for Sync 3. I used Forscan to program it. This data is from a 2017 Platinum. I changed line 1 to "AA2A 0503 0EC1" to display heated/cooled seats on the climate screens.

    7D0-01-01
    AA2A 0503 0CC1

    7D0-01-02
    028B 0004 9B06

    7D0-02-01
    5553 0104 E46B

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    0300 8000 005E

    7D0-02-03
    0005 E1

    7D0-03-01
    0000 0002 00DD

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    0100 0000 00DD

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    0007 E4

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    1A2C 1A2C 2B94

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    FCDA

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    805E

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    0A00 3300 001C

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    0000 1770 0067

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    0056 568C 0019

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    886A
     
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    Here are photos of what the correct screen and mounting bracket look like for our vehicles. The part number won't matter as long as it is Sync 3.

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    Awesome implementation. I think this is too advanced for me to try... Worried I might break something.
     
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    Note that the auction does not include a screen, you cannot use a Sync 2 screen for Sync 3. The Sync 3 screens include a new display panel with higher resolution, they are also brighter and have better colors plus capacitive touch (not resistive like Sync 2)
     
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    DeLeSaAZ Beasley, the chauffeur of my previous Edge. Elite Explorer

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    I doubt the lack of comments has anything to do with no interest in what you've done. Sounds like you've invested an incredibly amount of time, effort, research into this and kudos to you for making it work. My guess is any lack of comments is just that not enough people either have the time, know-how, or have a huge enough issue with Sync2 to go to all the work you did. I had a 2013 Edge for 3 years before I bought the 2016 Explorer, so it was great not having to learn a new system from scratch - I have enough projects going on! I bought the parts to install the VSS and RMU weeks ago - no time to install them. Heck, I don't even have time to put the velcro on the dash to keep my new DashMat from sliding all over. There's no way I'd ever attempt an undertaking such as yours - my car would be in pieces and out of commission for weeks! I personally have never even touched or seen the new Sync3 so I don't know what I'm missing out on but between Sirius and Bluetooth to my phone for music and Audible, I'm fine with Sync2 which is good as I plan on keeping this car at least 4-5 years! But I do hope you're patting yourself on the back for making this work - and I'm sure anyone else wanting to switch will appreciate all your information you posted! Good job!!
     

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