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Discussion in 'Elite Explorer Registry' started by gmanpaint, April 3, 2009.

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  1. donalds

    donalds Elite Explorer

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    You can buy black pvc and bend it with a little heat

    A heat gun not to much heat
     
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  3. Turdle

    Turdle Moderator Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Color difference would be a good thing in my mind because it would make the added electrical lines more easily indentifiable. Nobody is going to crawl under to look anyway--
     
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  4. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Won't see it if under the body.
    Will see it if on the frame.
    (3" body lift)

    I would know what it is, and not worried about anybody else needing to know. Lol
     
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  5. vroomzoomboom

    vroomzoomboom Elite Canuck STOCK SUCKS! Elite Explorer

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    can it be heated and bent without melting?
     
  6. vroomzoomboom

    vroomzoomboom Elite Canuck STOCK SUCKS! Elite Explorer

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    or garden hose if you can find some that isnt a eyesore
     
  7. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Hmm.. they do make a smaller garden hose for RV use. Along that line of thought, clear tubing comes in a variety of sizes.

    I just realized, that I already did the clear tube on the frame rail, on the 94 Ex, for the rear camera wires. lol
     
  8. vroomzoomboom

    vroomzoomboom Elite Canuck STOCK SUCKS! Elite Explorer

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    Or if money is no object (HA!) aluminum 1/2 fuel line. Or if you go back to the pvc idea, you could use brake line to make a template of the frame, then somehow bend the pvc to fit it
     
  9. donalds

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    Yes. The proper way is with a heat blanket
    I use a heat gun Amazon.com: pvc heat blanket
     
  10. CDW6212R

    CDW6212R Hauls the mail. Elite Explorer

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    How about PEX hose, that's tougher and lasts longer than most others.
     
  11. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    If I used a tube to sheath the lines, I would just use the water tight flex tube. It is made for exterior use, and can bend to the body flow easily. if not that, a thick wall clear tube would be plenty. Not really excited about having to heat and bend any of the hard wall products.

    Thanks for all the tips, ideas, and thoughts!

    So moving along....The other part of this job, is modifying the rear tube bumper. It's coming off the rig for some work.

    It is getting holes put in it for the trailer chains, and the 7 pin trailer harness. I don't want the chains to run under the tube, rather through the center face plate. The trailer is built for the trails, and I don't want the chains to get pinched/dragged on rocks. Backside is heavily gusseted for the hitch, no worries here.

    Plan is to cut sq holes into the vertical diamond plate, then weld 1/4" angle to box them all around. For the chain hooks, the loops will be welded to the backside, hidden from view.

    The tire swing out will get some mounts welded for Jerry can, and Max Tracks. The tire mount plate will be re-positioned, to angle the tire, with top inward.

    The bumper will be sand blasted, and repainted. Hoping to start this project in a week or so.
     
  12. Turdle

    Turdle Moderator Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Well now you gone and done it.

    Talk about wire tubes and switch covers and you'll have tons of ideas. Move on to real work and........












    crickets
     
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  13. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Been saving this update for my 10,000 post. Since my journey started here with this rig, I found it fitting to share this milestone here.

    While back I bought this 8.8 ARB locker, and a bigger pump to use for double duty with tire inflation in mind. I made a custom mount box for that pump, and installed it. I decided to steal this bigger pump for the trailer build, and bought another pump for it. This pump is smaller, and only used for the locker. I have another pump installed for the tire fills, that works just fine. I might update it eventually, but it works for now.

    ARB Air locker & pump.jpg

    This will be installed at some point over the summer. I am in no rush, as I still have the ongoing trailer build, the rear bumper work, and the troublesome brake/tow circuit to figure out, and more to come.

    I have given up all vacation's, all camping & wheeling trips since the Fall of 2017 to build and pay for all this stuff, and have learned to take my time, to do things right, and as I can afford it. Taking a couple of years, but I think I have done fairly well for a poor blue collar man, barely surviving at times in this crazy world of ours. I will at least have something to show for all that sacrifice. Just have to get it all done, before I die of old age! :D

    Thank you Explorer Forum for the Journey. It's been a heck of a time so far, with so many memories, & so many new friends. I hope all the sharing I have done, has helped some people along the way, and if not, I hope I supplied some entertainment at the least. :)

    :dpchug: To the last 10,000 posts, and to the next 10,000!
     
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  14. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Clouds parted this morning, and I had a full day of outside stuffs to do first thing. After I painted 200 LF of 8" Fascia boards for a job tomorrow, I had enough time to ....

    A) Mow the lawn or,
    B) Mess with the bumper

    So I cut a 2" Round hole, and two 3" rectangle holes. Mounted the 7 pin Trailer connector thing a ma Bob, but didn't wire it up. Just zip tied them in place neatly for now.

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    Cut up the angle iron with the old chop saw, notched them with the grinder blade, and welded them up.

    Hole trim welded.jpg

    Mocked them up just to share with all you awesome people.

    bumper hole trim mocked uo.jpg

    Not sure when I will take the bumper off, to weld them on from the backside yet. I put them in a zip lock bag, and chucked them in the freezer for now.

    Time to make some dinner, (Home Run Inn Chi-Town style Frozen Pizza) and chill in front of the boob tube for a few hours.

    :smokin:
     
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  15. Mbrooks420

    Mbrooks420 High Voltage. Elite Explorer EF Vendor

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  16. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Never thought about that stuff. I'm at lowes constantly and will check it out.
     
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    Mbrooks420 High Voltage. Elite Explorer EF Vendor

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    It’s pretty flexible, and the one hole straps for it work well. Plus, it’s cheap.
     
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  18. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Half day at work, sun came back out, and decided to hurt myself........ I mean work on the tire swing out mount.

    Cut the top Horizontal tube in half, between gussets. Put the loose end with the mounting plate in a vise. Marked the end of the tube, and made a 15* cut.

    Cleaned both tubes of paint, clamped it in place, and welded it back on. Quick shot of black paint to hold it over until it gets sand blasted, and mounted the spare 35" tire.

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    tire mount angle 1.jpg Tire mount angle 2.jpg

    I didn't account for the new angle in depth at the bottom. I can remove another 2.5" from the horizontal top tube to draw it in closer to the rear door. That's going to have to be for another day.


    Note to self: Always wear your welding shirt when welding over head. That way when a hot molten ball of slag drops on your shirt sleeve, melts it's way thru, then rolls down your arm, before exiting said shirt sleeve, leaving a track mark burn that would make Kieth Richards proud, won't happen.
     
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  19. CDW6212R

    CDW6212R Hauls the mail. Elite Explorer

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    Ha, sorry about the unexpected new body art, time for a new tattoo I guess.

    Why do you want that angle for the tire though? I'm imagining barely touching something backing up ...?
     
  20. gmanpaint

    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Well, after it is brought closer to the door, it will be tucked in tighter, and look better to me for one. The distance from the top of the tire to the back glass bugs me, but....The other more practical reason, is while on the trails.

    In wooded areas with heavy foliage, the top of the tire won't be as much as a snag point.

    While climbing and descending from an angle to flat ground, the lower outside of the tire edge is higher, and less likely to scrape.
     
  21. CDW6212R

    CDW6212R Hauls the mail. Elite Explorer

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    I hear that, you get intimate with some foliage at times don't you?

    I just had a dumb idea, really hard and probably not practical. Place the tire where the hatch is(cut a hole in the hatch so it's mounted in a pocket), extend the hatch outward. I could see really strong hatch shocks being a problem, and the back end would look way weird with the bulge and glass moved outward. But that would be interesting, and R&Ring the tire would be more interesting. It's worth a chuckle, but never mind, keep going.
     
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