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Trading my X for a Mountaineer!!

Discussion in 'Stock 1995 - 2001 Explorers' started by miagonz85, July 24, 2011.

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    1. miagonz85

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      Hi guys, i came across this Mountaineer for a really good deal and decided to go with it. Gave the guy a deposit and will be picking it up tomorrow!! It's a 2000, 5.0 with 91k, from one owner. Really clean in and out, everything works.. No oil leaks, not rust, never been in any accidents, drives really smooth compared to my 98' X with 178k. I got it for $3500 which i think it's a good deal. Here are some pics of the truck, not the greatest quality since i got them in the wrong size, i'll take better pics tomorrow..
       
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    3. miagonz85

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      This is the Mountaineer. I'll post pics of my current explorer next, which will be for sale soon, after 8 years!!
       

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      Nice!
       
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      Thanks! This is my X, i really like both. LoL!! I just like the Mountaineer a little better cause of the mileage, condition, features, the leather and the fact that it has the 5.0.. Even though my X is really clean aswell, minus the extras and engine size.
       

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      Wow both of them are very clean. I wish mine was that clean when I still owned it.
       
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      You are gonna love the 5.0
       
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      Yea, i drove the 5.0 and there is a noticible difference in the way it drives even though it's practically the same truck. Maybe the torsion bars have a different rate on the Mountaineer, plus the v8's torque, it's different. The only down side is that it's a 2wd, i really wanted a 4wd, but i guess swapping the input shaft and adding a 4406 t/c will resolve the problem. Even if i spend $1k doing this, will put me at $4500 total on the Mountaineer which in my opinion is worth the price. I figured i would have had to do this to a 4wd aswell (minus the input shaft/ front differential)..
       
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      i've been reading about the 5.0 mpg's and i'm starting to worry!!
       
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      My pretty much stock 96 limited 5.0 with 300,000 miles gets outstanding mileage for its age. I usually average 20-22 on the highway and 16-18 in the city. One time i averaged 24.6 with a 12ft kayak on the roof but that was in perfect conditions (strong tail wind the whole trip lol). And yes i drive like grandma so that helps.

      Then again i see other people with 5.0s that are getting 12mpg so i dont know. Hopefully yours is a factory freak like mine
       
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      Even if it isn't, it's really no different than the V6. Not sure where you're reading MPG's from, Miagonz, but seriously- they're virtually the same.
       
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      I went this morning and transfered the title, the guy left to work while i went to pick up my g/f to drive the mounty home. As i was driving it home i notice a jump in the transmission as if it stays in neutral and then grips (40-45mph), it only does it while i drive it slow, when i test drove it i drove it hard and didn't notice it!! I can't believe i missed this!! The minute i felt this i called the guy and he tells me the truck wasn't doing that.. So i argued with him and kept going in circles, he kept saying it wasn't doing that.. Bottom line, i made a bad deal... I love the truck but now a transmission repair is going to put me over the car's value.. I'm very disappointed, specially at my self for not doing a full check up of the truck..
       
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      I'd try a pan drop or turkey/baster/refill of the trans fluid first.
       
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      You mean drop the transmission pan and check for something unusual?? What's the turkey/baster/refill?
      I spoke to my cousin in Miami, FL who owns a transmission shop, he said it sounds like it could be the valve body or the o/d lock pin which are the usual on these transmissions. I just dropped it off at a shop just to get a written estimate to show the guy who sold me the truck and try to get him to at least cover half. But the repair i'm planning on doing my self.. At leats the removal and install of the tranny i know how to do which will save me some $.
      And I was so looking foward to enjoying my new mounty this weekend!! Taking it for a cruise! instead i'll be under it giving it a welcome home!!
       
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      I wouldn't worry one bit. I average 19-21 mpg mixed with my 5.0L and it has 205K miles. Hasn't given me one problem besides normal maintenance like brakes, fluid changes etc. Probably Ford's best drivetrain! Congrats on the purchase, the mounty always had a great, unique look to it. :thumbsup:
       
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      Yep- pan drop, quick check, then refill. The baster- some will just pull the fluid up through the fill tube, then replace- even less invasive.

      Interested what you find out from the shop.
       
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      Might not hurt to put in a drain plug on the tranny pan for future fluid checks. It just makes the whole process that much easier. The guy who sold you the car probably should have disclosed that "minor" fact about the tranny. Kinda scummy. It is hard to believe that your tranny is cooked after only 91K, its a very robust auto...
       
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      I just averaged 21mpg hwy on a trip down to Philly this past weekend in 100+ degree weather doing 70+ the whole time.

      It sounds like a bad torque converter.

      The transmission on my 01 cooked at 107K. Swapped it out for a unit with 78K miles and it drives amazingly.
       
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      Went around and got three different estimates. One form the salvage yard on a used tranny for $300/ 30 day guarranty. The other two where from transmission shops, they both said that these transmissions have a common problem with the over drive lock pin, but they say that's not my problem, that they'll have to take the transmission apart to check. the check engine light is not on, so is something mechanical.. I'm kind of going over my options here, not sure what to do.. :scratch:
       
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      I would try changing the fluid. They just want to get into your walle... er... transmission. :D

      I look at it this way- if the trans is going to go, fluid or not, it's going to go. Try the fluid, and it might cure a problem. Lots of ill-running trans' have been remedied by a fluid change. It's probably never been changed.
       
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      "I'm kind of going over my options here, not sure what to do.. "

      Joe Dirt is telling you exactly the right things to do;have a little faith. My 5.0 gas mileage is about the same as reported, 17 -20.5. :thumbsup:
       
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      I pulled 19 driving both up north and back (hills) pulling my boat.

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      It's a full treated wood custom interior in the boat, the thing is a heavy pig. It barely planes with that 15hp motor, so there is some good weight there. The Ex pulled it well. I haven't driven it up north yet empty with no trailer, but I fully expect over 20 with it. I am running all new O2's, new plugs, wires, and about 90 coats of wax... :thumbsup:
       
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      Joe Dirt: I will try removing the pan and putting new fluid but i'm not too sure what good that'll do because the transmission by the bottom is painted silver as if someone messed with it, rebuilt it or just made it look new for a reason. it's not like a factory transmission that people run 100k with the original oil and a oil change will give it a new life. This tranny has new oil from what i can see in the dip stick, and what it's doing is like if something was installed wrong, it doesn't slip, it just doesn't engage into o/d and then all of a sudden it does.
       
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      Oh, about the mpg's, yeah i'm sure the 5.0 will do good, either way i filled up both, the X and the mountaineer and reseted the trip miles, let's see!!! LoL!! I'm driving them both the same, i use one the whole day and the other the next, till gas runs out!
       
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      Nice truck...what kind of tires are you running on there?
       
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      Mine was shifting hard into O/D about 40 mph under soft acceleration too. I swapped out the fluid and added a secondary external filter up by the cooler, and it is a lot smoother now. I can still feel it a little bit, but the big clunk sound and feeling like I just got rear ended is gone.

      My mpg is in the high 12's in town with 31 inch tires and a lift. Which is still better then my 93 got with the same tires and a v6.
       

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