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Turbo on 2000 Limited 5.0

Discussion in 'Need for Speed!' started by Dono, June 30, 2013.

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  1. Dono

    Dono 347 V8 Limited turbo Elite Explorer

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    I feel like I should see if I can buy in to fel-pro with all the gaskets I've been going thru. I'm sure I'm single handedly driving their profits up.

    Don, I also emailed FlowTech inductions with the head I was looking at and my cam specs asking for a quote with matched springs and for him to make sure the larger intake runners wouldn't cause a cam Mismatch.

    4pointslow raised a good point that if the cam is wrong, the time to change it is when the heads are going on. The cam isn't a crazy high lift/ high duration one so I'm guessing it will be fine.
     
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  3. CDW6212R

    CDW6212R Hauls the mail. Elite Explorer

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    Ask Ed if your custom cam is usable for the heads you are wanting to go to, and if a new cam would be a big benefit to swap with the heads.

    He would also be great to ask for a head recommendation. I'd want the 195cc range head for a 347, a TFS in the 300cfm range. That's what I will shop for when I get to my 332 build.
     
  4. Dono

    Dono 347 V8 Limited turbo Elite Explorer

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    Ed has my current custom cam card, and I have filled out the cam spec sheet.
    I'll get recommendation on cam and heads. I do hope I can keep my current cam though.

    There is a good chance that I will get a head option with current cam, and another option with a higher flowing head and cam combo.

    With the turbo, the rules do change a bit. Ed may even say to go with the highest flowing head possible with the current cam. That would be ok, All I'd need to do is port my lower intake to 1262 sizing then.

    It's all guessing until I get the recommendation back. I'm not interested in spinning my motor to the moon, and want a reliable, nicely mannered daily driver so the specs do change. A 347 with a turbo should be able to drop 400-450hp to the wheels and have lots of mid range torque. The way I was currently spec'd, I don't think I would have hit that goal (which really surprised me).
     
  5. Dono

    Dono 347 V8 Limited turbo Elite Explorer

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    IMG_20151104_233733.jpg IMG_20151104_233753.jpg Christmas came early for me.
    Tim stopped by with a support bracket for the air conditioning core and all supporting hardware from a v6. Only people with factory v8's can appreciate the pain involved with replacing the rad. Its ok once in a while, but I've pushed over the top with rad removal/replacements this summer. I'm pretty excited that now I won't have to fight with those stupid rad clips anymore to support the air conditioning core.

    I'm still patiently waiting on my heads. I really only have some header re-wrapping to do (all the motor r&r's have taken their toll on the wrap also) and some clean up left. Then I'm ready for the heads.
     
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    That block sure looks nice!
     
  7. Dono

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    Lets just say I had time on my hands to clean up the pistons and head mating surfaces. I'll be able to give the block surface one final wipe with brake cleaner and drop the head gasket on it.

    In speaking with flowtech inductions, and reading about the old ROL graphite gaskets, I'm going with the Mr Gasket graphite gaskets. I understand that the stock replacements fel-pro's should be fine, but in light of my issues I'm going to try something else a but more 'stout'.

    The TW 170 heads are being custom prepped by FlowTech with springs to match my cam, so its taking a bit longer as the TW 170 FAC bare castings are not stocked by FlowTech. I'm hoping that the turn around happens soon as I'm almost ready to re-install the motor.

    Did I say I'm super happy to not have to fight with the rad this time? :)
     
  8. CDW6212R

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    Are you changing just the support brackets for the AC condenser, or swapping the V6 part in place? I have both types, and haven't yet pulled a V8 radiator.

    I do like the V6 bracket that bolts easily to the bottom of the condenser and radiator support. I've wondered if it could be fitted to the V8 easily.
     
  9. Dono

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    Its the bottom support, the two black plastic end caps on each side of the v6 condenser, and the two top brackets with the rubber on them to bolt to the frame (and, of course, the bolts and 'nut clips'). Surprisingly simple. Keep all the same v8 air conditioning lines.

    Why Ford came up with such a diabolical method for the v8's when they had a perfectly simple, logical mounting method on the v6 I'll never understand.
     
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    Excellent, I'll get those extra pieces for my Mountaineer too.

    Do you know if the V6 and V8 condensers are the same part, or at least the lines will swap? When I convert my Explorer to a 302, I'd like to keep as much of the original parts as I can(swap the dryer and top AC line).
     
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    The line off the pump that goes to the drivers side of the condenser will need to be swapped to the v8 line. Tim mentioned this to me in passing as he was thinking about what I would need.

    I 'think' this means the pump is the same part number. I'll have a look at my pump. Rockauto catalog might be a great place to answer this question also.
     
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    Okay, both lines then most likely. I'm fairly sure the compressors are the same, the PS pump I'm hoping John will say soon if they also match bolt patterns. Those little monsters are expensive.
     
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    you didnt waist any time doing that, you must have had a lot of hate for it lol. did you have to pull the cooler, or did it squeeze by.
     
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    Dono 347 V8 Limited turbo Elite Explorer

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    I had to pull the grinder out and massage one of the brackets from under the truck.

    It was pretty easy. Lots of aluminum bits everywhere, but easy.
     
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    combustion chamber 3.jpg Teaser pic
     
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    I'm pretty sure its 61cc compared to what I had of about 59cc.
    A bit larger, but I'll still be around 9.4:1 which is still great for my application.
    That, and the Mr. Gasket head gasket has a smaller compressed height of .038.
     
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    Think my heads were 60cc but those valves look like they take up way more room than mine..haha.. what size are they??got flow chart by chance also??you can email me if you dont want it public..haha


    Edit ..i see your just getting springs done..so heads should be off shelf TFS 170..i have the flow rate for them and wowwww those things flow..would probably like to see a little larger exhaust valve being FI,but then again the exhaust is same valve size as mine so..:D
     
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    :bounce:does this mean they are home?:bounce:

    remember, i am free ALL DAY (as far as i know) sat. that and looking back on your thread, i cant believe its been over a month since we pulled it. feels like its been longer then that, even longer for you as well
     
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    Tim you are one heck of a guy. :thumbsup:
     
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    Heads

    Fricken sweat man!
    Cant wait to hear about the power increase from them!
     

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