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why is my air bag light blinking?

Discussion in 'General Explorations!!' started by Krzyboy2o, October 1, 2002.

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    1. Krzyboy2o

      Krzyboy2o Active Member

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      just yesterday by airbag light (the yellow light right above my left blinker) turned on. at first while driving it started blinking. on then off. then while drive a couple of miles, the light stayed on permanently. is the light a service warning or is it just a loose connector? any help is greatly appreciated thanks
       
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      Pretty sure its a warning light about somethin wrong with the airbag system. I'd have it checked at autozone or something, it should have thrown some kind of code
       
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      go out and kick your bumper real hard and see if they still work.

      no im kidding
      Ryan
       
    5. Krzyboy2o

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      i've already done that! and no they didnt pop out! haha! thanks guys.. keep it coming....
       
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      The light is on because there is a fault detected in the system. Any scanner hooked to the vehicle must be able to read Airbag codes, sadly most for the DIY'er don't read these codes. :( The units that do read Airbag codes (and many other things) are very expensive, they range from $2,000-$4,000. The Ford NGS, Snap-On MT2500 and OTC scanners are examples of machines that read airbag codes.

      My advice would be get the vehicle scanned with the proper tool at a local garage ASAP to see what the problem is.

      Good Luck!
       
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      $200 bucks for code flash!

      just called ford dealer.. they said that they're gonna have to flash a code to determine the problem. the thing is... its gonna cost me $200 for that process. not including labor and repair. are there any alternatives before spending 200 bucks. thanks!
       
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      you can do like Homer Simpson did when his check engine light was on he put a pice of electrical tape over it.

      Ryan
       
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      Try a different garage, that is a total ripoff.

      Sadly, there is no way to get around it. Only certian scanners will read this type of code and there is no other way to access the information. I would call around though, that $200 is a damn joke.
       
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      I agree screw ford, go to autozone that have all that stuff and sometimes they will look at your car for free. or maybe you can rent one from them but probably not

      Ryan
       
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      I really doubt autozone has it. But, a large independent garage may have the expensive computer required to check it.
       
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      Your airbag light will flash a 2-digit diagnostics code in addition to the DTC that it set in memory. Start your Explorer, your light will come on, then when it goes off and then starts flasthing count the flashes. Post the 2-digit code and I should be able to tell you what it stands for. Autozone will not have the proper scanner to read the DTCs for a Ford air-bag fault.
       
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      Robert is right on the money.
      With Ford aig bag systems it flashes the code for you.
      You just need to know what the code means. The good news is unlike many cars once the problem is corrected the light will reset it's self.
      Let me know if you need help once Robert tells you the problem. Although I have never done an air bag in an Explorer , I have done a few Fords like Focous , a work van and a Tarus.
       
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      The bad thing about Ford's SRS computer is it will not clear the code until it has seen 256 clear startups. Everytime you turn your key from off to on, the SRS computer goes through a self diagnostics routine. If it goes through it 256 times, it will clear the light. I sat in my garage a couple years ago turning my Explorer on and off 256 times to clear an air-bag code that I purposefully set (don't ask). Alright, I wanted to see if my scanner would see it (which it didn't) and whether or not disconnecting the battery would clear it (which it didn't). Two hours later it cleared after going through the on/off routine. I disconnected the emergency pump shut-off connector after about 20 sequences so that my fuel pump quit trying to pump.
       
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      i got the code!!

      the code is 3-7. it blinks 3 times first then 7 times after.... what the problem?? thanks for the help!
       
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      You would have to post an LFC (light flash count) that wasn't part of my '97 system :( The ones from my '97 that are close though might give you direction to go. In '97 the codes that are similar are 32, 33, 34 & 35. They are as follows:

      32 = driver side air bag module circuit high resistance or open
      33 = passenger side air bag module circuit high resistance or open
      34 = drivers side air bag module circuit low resistance or shorted
      35 = passenger side air bag module circuit low resistance or shorted.

      I'm not sure if side air bags were an option yet in '99. If they were, it is probably related to the passenger side, side impact air bag module. If you don't have side air bags, then it is probably related to the passenger side airbag module. Hopefully someone has access to repair information for a '99 that might narrow it down further.
       
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      I checked a 95 and 97 Ford Factory service Robert, 37 is not listed in mine either. I even tried codes for Ranger, F150 and others...........nothing. :(
       
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      Man, That is funny as hell,
      I am laughing with you not at you.:D
       
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      reference manulas??

      will a chilton or a hayes reference manual have information about airbag codes?
       
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      I doubt it. I think only the Ford Factory Service will have that information. Your code is not even listed in my 97 Factory Service manual. :(
       
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      It could be a side airbag problem if your X has them. The scanner I got (Diagtek) reads and clears airbag codes, and it only cost $250! THink of it as a buck for each time you have to cycle the key.
       
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      Where did you get your scanner?

      I am thinking of upgrading from AutoXray. The AutoXray is O.K., but it does not do many functions that I want, and even the new software version still does not work correctly with some Ford O2 tests :rolleyes: I have been looking at the Snap-On MT2500. It's mega expensive though, and the software is a small fortune.

      EDIT: Nevermind. I just found their site, it requires a laptop or Palm. I want a self containted unit.
       
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      I don't beleve that is true. I put a pair of bags and a module in Focous two months ago. When it ran it's test it threw a code. A call to Ford , and I found out it had detonation seat belts. I put two new belts in and the light went out and stayed out.

      It's nice to know the 256 trick though.
       
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      My 00 has been doing this lately too.

      Its annoying but its still under warranty so when i get time ill take it in. If i can remember ill count the codes and post here.
       
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      ok i work at a dodge dealership... and i overheard this the otherday...

      A service advisor was telling our customer that her airbag light was flashing and asked her if she knew what this meant... the lady said no and he informed her that it means there is a problem with her airbag and it may not deploy in the event of an accident... he went on to tell her that it was a saftey issue of him warning her.. almost like we would be liable... but thats just what i heard...
       
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      It is on my '97 Explorer. I even went so far as to open up my SRS computer to see if there was a large capacitor storing the fault I caused and there wasn't one. The first time I set it off when I pulled the air-bag fuse, I took it to Ford and told them I found the fuse loose under the hood. They hooked their NGS tester up to it and cleared it in the parking lot. When I did the same thing a couple of years ago, the only way I could get the light to clear was by turning my key on and off 256 times after I put the fuse back in. If you still don't think it is correct, pull the air-bag fuse out in the small fuse box under your hood (by the master cylinder). Start it up and wait until the air-bag light starts flashing. Put the fuse back in now and then restart it. Tell me what you end up doing to clear the light. From my '97 Ford Service CD:

      "Retrieve/Clear Continuous DTCs

      During vehicle operation the air bag diagnostic monitor will detect and store both intermittent and hard failure codes in non-volatile memory. The Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) strategy employed by the air bag diagnostic monitor incorporates a time-out scheme for determining when a fault exists in the system. This requires a fault to exist for up to one minute in the system before the air bag diagnostic monitor will detect it.

      For the air bag diagnostic monitor to determine that a fault no longer exists requires that the fault is absent for up to one minute. The actual fault detection time-outs vary with DTC. The codes can be retrieved by the service technician with the New Generation STAR (NGS) Tester 007-00500 or equivalent using the RETRIEVE/CLEAR CONTINUOUS DTCs option. Any fault codes stored in the air bag diagnostic monitor will be displayed on the NGS along with a brief description of the fault. If no codes are present, the NGS Tester will display a SYSTEM PASSED message. This option can also be used to clear DTCs from the air bag diagnostic monitor memory, as long as the fault no longer exists. Once a fault code is logged in the air bag diagnostic monitor memory, it will stay in memory until 255 key cycles have been recorded or until the NGS is used to erase the codes. Once 256 key cycles have been recorded since the fault was last detected, the DTC will automatically be removed from memory. "
       

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