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Ok. Well I got the trainer so I'll give it a go and see what happens without training first.

This isn't quite clear to me. You had the summers back on and they were remembered. However, how did you train the winters in the first place? I am about to get my winters (for next year) and will be mounting them and throwing them on to make sure everything is good to go next year. Won't I need...

The dealership is who told me there are clearance issues.

I was looking at the Thule force XL. I don't know how it attaches to the rails and if there will be enough room. Edit From the Thule website it shows as compatible with the stock cross bars so I think I'm ok

So still nothing on the 2nd row and cargo area? I got the 3rd row cargo light out of the headliner but couldn't figure out how to disconnect or open there housing.

I just got a new sport and they said not to get the ford cross bars for a different reason, that they interfere with the moonroof when it opens? and that aftermarket (Thule) rails were necessary. Has anyone heard anything about this?

That's fine. I ordered the TPMS 19 trainer great. Thanks

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Do these work for 18" rims? I'm putting stock 18" explorers rims on the 2017 as winter wheels. Will I need the TPMS trainer

I'm doing this on our new explorer sport 2017. I bought stock explorer 18" rims. Will these fit the 18"s? And do I need a programmer for my own Tue swaps? Or do they self program.

Now I'm pretty set on the WRG3s in 18" but can't find any. I either need the 245/60/18(-1.5%) which is what is recommended in the Manual or 235/65/18" (exact size match) I'm concerned about the 235s being too a little too narrow for the Sport during normal dry driving.

I actually ordered the Thule/Konig ksummit since they were said to fit and wouldn't interfere on the backside where the clearance with the brake lines is small. Then I realized why pay $550 for a set of chains I may rarely if ever benefit from when I can pay $1500 and get benefit from the...

It's as I said, the UV light in sunlight breaks down there plastics.

Why would it do that? I mean the plastic may yellow due to UV but why would this affect that?

So just to confirm, everybody is on board and comfortable that this is normal? I thought headlights were sealed units. Our brand new 17 Explorer looked like this from the dealer in 1 headlight. It went away the next day. When asked about it they quoted the same manual page. So no concerns?

That would be great but in the bay area when it is dumping on Tahoe/Kirkwood it is usually 50-70 degrees in the bay area where I live. It is basically summer conditions, other than rain. That's why I don't want to compromise too much. It is almost never below 40 in the bay area except a few...

Sorry. I meant all weather.

Now I'm unsure. I'm concerned about all the driving during the week and the 150 miles up before we'd likely even encounter snow. This seems like a ton of wear on dedicated snow tires. Would great AS tires like the Nokian WRG3s (only during the winter on winter rims) make more sense?

It sounds like the Nokian are some of the best with the Hakkapeliitta R2 highly recommended in snow/ice. How do these do on dry? I need to have a good balance as we'll be in the bay area during the week on dry/wet pavement and then driving up to Kirkwood. Edit.. Reading more the Nokian WRG3s...

Surprising, those tires are 3.3% different than stock and are above what people on the forum recommend. What brand/model?

I can find the 235s no problem but I'm a little worried about what I read upthread with 235s maybe being a bit on the skinny side when on pavement. Would do 245 in a heartbeat but can't find 4 of any 1 tire online Brian

Thanks for your help. Sorry I missed your recommendation up thread. I have read the manual but was wondering several things. Why could I put chains on an 18" wheel but not a 20 if the diameter is the same. Because of width? Any specific chain/cable recommendations for when I go 18"s? Brian

Thanks for the reply. That's what I figured, so let me ask a few followups. What tire size should I be shooting for on the 18"s. I have been looking for 245/60/18 but see very little out there. Is this not a very common size. Only 3 blizzaks are avail on Tire Rack. My wife won't be good with...

I'm cross posting this a bit as this seems the more appropriate place. So we just purchased a 2017 Sport Explorer. We live in the SF bay area and have also just bought a place in Kirkwood to go skiing. We plan on going up probably 10-15 times in the winter, sometimes almost every weekend. But...

So we just purchased a 2017 Sport Explorer. We live in the SF bay area and have also just bought a place in Kirkwood to go skiing. We plan on going up probably 10-15 times in the winter, sometimes almost every weekend. I know that the route we travel, 88, often has snow and is even closed...