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5 Speed in a 5 liter with AWD, possible?

jseabolt

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2006 Explorer Limted V8
I’ve been reading about all these transmission problems on the web on. I bought my 96 used and stopped by the dealer and asked them to print me off a service record of work that had been done. Nothing was related to the transmission. So I am assuming it’s got the original transmission with 85,000 miles on it. Am I lucky? Or am I driving a time bomb?

So far the only thing that stands out was a coolant leak at 60K miles which required a second trip to the dealer less than 1000 miles later. Unfortunately the service record was not very specific as to what the leak was all about.

OH here’s an update on that. Awhile back I noticed it was leaking when parked but didn’t seem to lose any coolant on the trip to Philly and back (about 1200 mile trip). So I crawled underneath it and found coolant below both exhaust manifolds. So I figured it might be the head gaskets leaking when the engine cools down then seals itself off when warm. Since there was no oil and antifreeze mixing (not blown) I tried some coolant stop leak. The tube that contains a trace amount of sodium silicate. Not the Barrs stop leak or block sealer. So far so good. I’ve used this stuff in the past with good results. Not a sure fire fix for a blown head gasket but great for minor leaks.

Getting back to the transmission. Mine is the 5 liter with all wheel drive. Since the 5 speed was not an option on this model, is it theoretically possible to install a 5 speed transmission and keep the all wheel drive system? Has anyone ever done it?

After owning my all wheel drive Subaru, I’m a big fan of all wheel drive. It would rape the crap out of my previous 94 Jeep Wrangler when it came to driving on slush and ice.

I’m not going to swap out transmissions unless I have to but if this is a chronic problem with this vehicle, is swapping over to a 5 speed an option? I know they put 5 speeds in the 4.0 liter models but don’t think they had all wheel drive.

Although I’d really like to keep it an automatic simply because my wife refuses to learn how to drive a stick. I’ve offered to teach her but she says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. HUH, I’ve taught my nine year old Pit bull terrier how to sit, lay down and roll over….

I read the 5 liter Explorer uses the same transmission has the F-150 pickup. But would the transfer case link up to the transmission? I know I’d need a donor vehicle. Like the foot pedals from a stick shift Explorer.

I haven’t looked too closely at the system under the vehicle to see how it’s arranged. Someone help me understand how this system works.
 



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I agree with techieman...

I blew up 3 of the 'STRONG' 5-speed transmissions behind my V6....

I upgraded to a V8 with a 4R70W a.k.a. AODE-W (Electroniclly Controlled AOD, Wide Gearset). From the factory it is about as bulletproof of a design as Ford ever made for ANY gas motor.

And to make them STRONGER....its cheap (relatively speaking)...

Ryan
 






First you need to give your wife a spanking to show her who's boss. Then you need to get a T-56 transmission. custom fabricate mounting brackets.
get new drive shafts for the front and rear axles. Tune to get ride of the auto transmission. Mod the engine to make 500 HP. Teach you wife to drive stick.

You would be a hero on this forum
 






there are various transmissions that can be adapted to fit behind the 302, including a mustang t-5 and a t-56, although i think this is a great idea and one day hope to do it myself, the heaviest load to lift in this conversation would be the electrical work to make the pcm think there's an automatic behind it, or you'd have to upgrade you pcm from a manual bronco or mustang ( thats a little ahead of my league), making the mounts and the grunt work is straight forward, in fact everything can be found at the junkyard minus the driveshaft and cross member mounts, however another issue you'll be facing is how to make the AWD work, if it was a standard manual transfer case well it would be easier.

i have myself a 302 V8 with the 4W70R trans in it, with over 200,000 miles and it doesn't miss a shift, just keep with lubed with good fresh oil, install a temp gauge to keep on eye on it while towing and an auxillary electric fan on the cooler so that you can lower the temperatures under load. and you should be set
 






A t5 would probably be ok behind a stock 302 but if it was built up at all I doubt it would hold up for very long. As far as the computer issues go that is a piece of cake. It's a 5 minute fix. You just have to buy a flash tuner, and have the guy writing the tune remove the transmission functions. It will cost you about $400 and take you about 3 minutes to upload the new tune. If you seriously want to do it www.hensonperformance.com is the place to go. He's done it before for a member that swapped over to a 5-speed.
 












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