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BMXking's Axle Swap 1st gen. Coils/Radius Arms!!!

Well, I finally decided to start a thread on it. For those of you who don't know, I will be doing a full-width swap. High-Pinion Dana 44 front and Ford 9" rear. I am still looking for the HP D44, but I picked up the 9" Monday. I have never really done a lot of work on axles, so this will definitely be a long process, but I have already done a lot of research about this(and am still learning a TON). I plan on doing as much of it myself as I possibly can, but will have a shop do the regear for me.

FRONT AXLE
-1977 F-150 HP D44 Full-Width $200 - Moved Forward ~1.5”
-Myers Machine Coil Seats $40 shipped
-6* Pro Comp Pinion shims under coil buckets (to fix coil angle) $18
-CAGE Offroad 5.5” Coil Springs $150 shipped
-Coil Buckets Spaced Out 2.5" (3/16" x 2.5" x 6.5") $FREE
-Bronco Graveyard 78-79 Coil Spring Tower, Pair $90.80 shipped
-F250 Shock Towers $28 shipped
-Stock Axle Shafts(for now) $FREE
-Warn Premium Hubs $72
-Extended, Plated, Heimed, Wristed 1978-1979 Bronco/F-150 Radius Arms $222 shipped
-CAGE Radius Arm Mounts $FREE w/ R/A's
-Adjustable Superlift (p/n 1080) track bar (76-79 Ford f150/78-79 Bronco) w/ Energy Suspension poly bushings $125
-Skyjacker Stainless Steel Braided Lines for lifted D35 TTB's $90
-Bronco Graveyard 66-75 Early Bronco Adj. Bracket $45
-New F150 tie-rods & stock Explorer drag link (w/ red poly dust boots) $121
-Stock pitman arm $FREE
-Raybestos Professional Grade $19.95 shipped
-Powerslot slotted rotors $120
-Rebuilt Calipers $26
-Completely rebuilt (seals/bearings/ball joints/u-joints/etc.) $260.23
-Energy Suspension Red 7* C-Bushings $21
-Stock Explorer D-shaft w/ 1310 D44 pinion yoke for stock Explorer u-joints $FREE
-Rancho RS5000 shocks $20
-Bronco Graveyard Upper Coil Spring Retainers $22
-Rancho RS5000 steering stabilizer w/ custom bracket $25



REAR AXLE
-1983 Ford 9" $85
-Rubicon Express Anti-Wrap perches welded SOA $35
-Wild Horses Weld-On Shock Mounts $15
-Stock Springs w/ AAL and red rear poly bushings $10
-Stock Axle shafts w/ new bearings, seals, collars, etc $140
-94-99 Dodge Ram 1500 front rotors $58 shipped
-'76 Cadallic Eldorado Calipers w/ e-brake $155 w/ core calipers
-'78 F150 Extended Stainless Steel Braided Rear Brake Hose $45.34
-Custom Bent Brake Lines (w/ 3/8" ends) $8
-'79 Caddy Eldorado Brake Line end box thing $FREE
-7/16" Banjo Bolt for '76 calipers $5
-Bendix Brake Pads $35
-Speedway Motors GM Large Caliper bracket (7" mounting points) $40 2-day shipped
-Cut off mounting points from Ford 9" drums to use as spacers for the disc conversion (no longer a backing plate behind the shaft) $FREE
-Third Member from eBay (4.88s, mini spool) $150
-BC Broncos Disc Brake Conversion Wheel Studs $15
-Wild Horses Super Duty U-bolt Kits $60
-Extended/balanced rear driveshaft w/ stock 1310 to match the 1310 on the axle $123.63
-Skyjacker Nitro 8000 shocks for 2" lift Explorer $FREE
-Copper Third Member Washers $12.24

TIRES
-37x12.50-16 Maxxis Creepy Crawlers $400.00

WHEELS (5 on 5.5)
-16x8 Black Rock Crawlers $293

Grade 8 Hardware: $200

Tig Welding: $200

Parts Sold
-Stock Third Member w/ 3.50s and open diff -$50
-Lower Coil Mounts -$25
-Stock Radius Arms -$25
-31x10.50 Dunlop Mud Rovers, 15x8 black rock crawler wheels, Skyjacker 2” lift coils, drop-in K&N, front Skyjacker Nitro 8k shocks, Dual CB Antenna Mounts/Coax, and 235/75r15 spare tire, APC Ultra-White Bulbs, Radius Arm Bushings, Sway Bar Bushings -$415
-Ford 8.8 - 3.27 gears, 31 spline, stock limited slip, drum brakes, SUA, great condition. -$70
-Front Axle Shafts -$60

TOTAL: $3156.24





Future Upgrades:
Dana 44 -
-30 spline ARB
-Yukon 4.88s
-Warn Chromoly Inner and Outer Shafts, Moser Max 44 shafts, or Superior Axles
-Dedenbear flat top knuckles
-Blue Torch Fabworks Hi-Steer Arms
-Rancho RS9000X adj. shocks
-Late 70s T-Bird calipers (1/4" bigger piston, and still use Bronco pads :thumbsup: )

Ford 9" -
-New Strange Nodular Iron Case w/ 3.250 carrier bearing (STR-N1906) $359 Summit Racing
-Moser Spool and Axle Package Number 1 (ASP1) - 35 spline full steel spool for 3.250 case, 35 spline custom alloy axles, Axle bearings, 5 on 5.5, 1/2" studs $590 Moser Engineering
-Yukon 4.88s (F9-486) $139 PORC
-Daytona Pinion Support 3.250 case (STR-N1914) $115 Summit Racing
-R&P Master Install Kit for 9" Ford-3.250 Case, Daytona Pinion Support(R9FDD) $100 Moser Engineering
-Pinion Yoke 1310 - 28spline pinion (may upgrade to 1350 if I get a new t-case) (PY210) $90 Moser Engineering
-Axle Breather Vent $12 Bronco Graveyard
-Axle Truss
-Rancho RS9000X adj. shocks
-94-02 Dodge Ram 4x4 Powerslot Slotted Rotors

Now on to the pics!
 

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Sucks, but cool you've still got a lead on one. Good luck with it.

By the way, with that discount, what is a set of 37" Creepy Crawlers going to cost you?
 



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j602 said:
Sucks, but cool you've still got a lead on one. Good luck with it.

By the way, with that discount, what is a set of 37" Creepy Crawlers going to cost you?
It'll be roughly the same price as buying 4 31" Mud Rovers at full price (assuming I buy a set of 5...since the 10th ann. run requires to have a FS spare) Not too bad for competition equivalent rock crawler tires. :D
 






Freakin' sweet. Umm, could this friend of yours get the discount for anyone else, or another set through you? :D
 






Yeah dude i second Nissanboy, on comming to NC. I've found 4 places within my city (charlotte) that all had a full assortment of 4x4 77's, 78's, 79's with everything. Most common was F-150's with 3.50 gears.

One yard in Rock hill SC (10 minutes from me) had a '77 that was just the housing, gears/carrier/caps, and knuckes. He wanted $75... cant beat that.
 






Josh, I'll have to talk to my friend and see what all he can do. Long story short, he does landscaping/lawn maintenance for some big Maxxis employee. The Maxxis guy said that he could get him 50% off on the Maxxis tires. If I am able to get the tires through him, I will pay my friend and/or the Maxxis employee some extra money for giving me such an awesome deal.

Creager and Nissanboy - I'll let you guys know if I get the Dana 44 today. I'm about to leave to pick up a complete one (what I was told over the phone) for 200 bucks, already pulled for me. If this one doesn't work out, I'll definitely talk with you guys. Also, if there are so many Dana 44's up there WHY IN THE WORLD DON'T EITHER OF YOU HAVE ONE!?!?! :D This is the perfect time to start building a nice 44 for a winter project. :cool:
 






bmxking5 said:
Creager and Nissanboy - I'll let you guys know if I get the Dana 44 today. I'm about to leave to pick up a complete one (what I was told over the phone) for 200 bucks, already pulled for me. If this one doesn't work out, I'll definitely talk with you guys. Also, if there are so many Dana 44's up there WHY IN THE WORLD DON'T EITHER OF YOU HAVE ONE!?!?! :D This is the perfect time to start building a nice 44 for a winter project. :cool:

hahaha.

I was VERY VERY close to picking up that one i was telling you about, i didnt because at the last second a skyjacker 6" lift crossed my mind hehe. I should have just done it, and if i never get around to swapping it then i'd just sell it to you.

i dont know why ATL has nothing, 5 hours up the road and BOOM...

i just did a quick search and found two of them about 45 minutes from me... (otherside of charlotte)

1977
Front Axle Assy.
Ford Truck F150 3.50,DANA 44 980347 $350 LWP, Inc. USA-NC(Concord) E-mail 1-800-785-9571
1979
Front Axle Assy.
Ford Truck F150 3.50 RATIO 980348 $250 LWP, Inc. USA-NC(Concord) E-mail 1-800-785-9571

When i was looking for axles back in august, they were everywhere. Obviously if this same yard has two, there HAS GOT to be others around.
 






I've found several here, they're all just stripped and/or rip-offs. ;) Well, pics will be coming (as proof) but I got one today!!! "Coda" told me to find a "mom and pop" yard, and man, this one was the exact definition of that. It was literally an older man, his wife, and a guy at the counter. Last night, they told me that it would be out in time for me to pick it up at noon today...they pulled it last night. Extremely nice people, and he had everything and more that I needed. He included stock coils, shocks, hubs, R/A brackets (which most likely won't be used), trac bar, etc. Only 200 bucks! :eek: Pics are coming soon.
 






Some pics. First is when it's nasty, second is a little more clean and R/A's, etc already taken off. Tomorrow I plan on stripping it down some more and cleaning it more.
 

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Yay for the little red wagon! :D Looks good man! Time to get a move on!
 






Indeed. Still think that the 37" Creepy Crawlers will look a little too large on Big Red :p but I know the full widths should really make it a stable wagon. :D

I'm going to Pep Boys (got a friend who can hook me up with stuff for cheap) tomorrow to get quite a few things like gaskets, c-bushings, seals, etc. My dad changed his mind from just buying me the coil buckets to getting the coil buckets and paying for all the fab work for lining them up with the full width.
Dad: "If you didn't have the coil buckets lined up right, you could cause a lot of problems with alignment, etc and it's worth paying for."
Me: "I can get it all figured out dad, trust me, unless you want to pay for it with the coil buckets."
Dad: Ok
Me: :bounce:

The progress should be happening pretty quickly and *hopefully* going in around Thanksgiving.
 






Haha, way to work the parentals. So basically, you're gonna do all the prep/maintenance work, and have the shop hang the axle? You're hoping to have the shop start the work around Thanksgiving? Did they give you an estimate for how long it's going ot take?
 






I'm doing all prep work other than regear. I am strongly considering not regearing the front for a month or so, so that it'll be in quicker, and just not run a front d-shaft for the time being. (Not to mention locked in rear with 37s and 4.88s would get me a lot further than what I'm doing now. :D) I'm having other things done before the whole swap as well, such as shock mounts in rear and spring perches...so it will go in the shop, I'll take out all suspension/axles, bolt up the rear axle, and then we'll start setting up the front end. I really don't want it in the shop long and obviously don't want a huge bill, so I will be doing as much as possible (unless my dad wants to pay some more :)). Haven't gotten an estimate on everything yet, but have gotten some numbers on some little things. The radius arms will be getting wristed, and probably extended a bit too before the swap. There won't be a ton of fabbing to be done while the truck is in the shop, just the R/A brackets (which will be similar to svande's w/ heim'ed R/A's most likely), trac bar mount, mounting coil buckets which I'm not paying for :D, and steering. Those are the major things, and I know I'm missing some stuff, but like I said that's the major stuff. Other than just to have a smaller bill, I really want to do as much as possible so that I know what's going on. I don't wanna have a break down on the side of the trail and be confused as to what thing broke, etc. I want to know all about my truck. :)
 






Picked up a few gaskets and other small, random pieces for the 44 today from Pep Boys. Also, I did some more tearing down on the 44 today. I pulled off most of the things that will be painted because I take an Auto Services class which just so happens to have a sand blaster in the shop. :cool: Most of the stuff should get sand blasted tomorrow. :D
 






Popped the cover off today and brought the axle inside. Today brought back memories of how dang bad old gear oil smells, well, any age gear oil for that matter! :fart: I seem to have been lucky again. The 9" was in awesome shape inside, and so far, this one seems to be too. :thumbsup: Notice how it's actually looking like a front axle instead of a grime covered piece of metal. ;)
 

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Man i bet that gear oil is gonna smell nice in your parents basement. Should Clean it up. That stuff stinks Imo. How you gonna do your steering.
 






splodo49 said:
Man i bet that gear oil is gonna smell nice in your parents basement. Should Clean it up. That stuff stinks Imo. How you gonna do your steering.
Yeah, it's still dripping a little bit, so I promised them it'd be outta there by tomorrow. I have a feeling it will stink in there though for atleast another week or so. It never goes away. :( I plan to build the steering outta DOM prolly. Do something similar to the BulletProofSteering setups, but without the high cost.
 






Glad to hear that you finally got your D44 BMXKING, I know you were looking for one for a while now! Hope you get all the things you need and GET-R-DONE!!!!
 






Got lots more taken apart today. The passenger side is all gone. :) Probably getting a rebuild kit for the seals, bearings, etc so I'll replace all of that after I finish taking apart the axle and cleaning it up. For anyone looking for a great D44 rebuild write-up, check out this... http://www.off-road.com/ford/bigbroncos/tech/dana44/
 

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looks good man, i had a ***** of a time getting the spindles off my 79...that is UNTIL i got the chisel out bwahaha :D Other than that my axle came apart pretty darn easy, yours lok to be in about the same condition as mine with the exception of one foobar'd rotor and long side shaft.
 



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I hope you keep posting pics of that axel buildup as you go. That was a great write up on the D44, I saved it under my Favorites.
 






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