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choosing new tires mostly for snow/mud

yellow_edge

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Alright I need new tires and I have decided on 31s simply because of money right now haha. I live in NW Ohio and do an average amount of mudding, along with a decent amount in the snow. I would like tire suggestions based on the priority of snow/ice performance first, then mud. Id love to find a tire that can do both very well but like I said id say snow/ice performance needs to be superior for me. Then again I do mud but not nearly as much as I'm going through snow and icy roads, as it is my DD. So, m/t or agressive a/t. Thanks!
 



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I have pitbull growlers and love them, you can see them on my sport trac in the forsale section or just google pitbull tires. They do amazing in the mud and I have no complaints so far about the ice/snow I've put them through
 






...Best bang for the buck, BFG a/t...You can have them on year round..;)

..Do a search on here for them and also your treadwright's...
 






a/t's are a good tire. Local wm has bfg mud terrain 31-10.5 15's for 116 each, thats a good deal on those and would work well
 






Which ones the kms or km2s?

I had the a/ts on my ranger, never experienced snow though..good other than that
 






...I was suggesting the KO's...

...I want some KM2's but I don't know enough on their all around use yet...
 






Ahh okay, yep that is what I had, but like I said they never saw ice
 






I kinda like the FC-2's. Lookin at like 145 at 4wheelonline
 






What you want isn't really possible. A tire that is ideal for mud and deep/loose snow, is going to SUCK on ice. All of the aggressive M/T's I;ve ever seen have a bunch of smooth tread blocks that essentially act as a bunch of miniature slicks on ice. Yes, that tread design will "dig" very well in mud and/or deep,loose snow (unplowed). They will not work well on ice or hard packed snow (plowed). If you look at tires rated for snow and ice, they have a lot of little grooves in the treadblocks, called "sipes". These sipes create hundreds of "sharp" edges to help the tire bite into the ice.
These tires are a good example of what siping is: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Year=1999&autoModel=Explorer 4wd&autoModClar=

Compare that to the tread design of the BFG M/T KM:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Mud-Terrain+T/A+KM

I don't care what "people say", it simply isn't physically possible for that tread design to be anything but roller skates on ice, even wet/slick roads. The only people saying otherwise must be the ones who clog up the highway in "bad" weather crawling along at 25mph on an interstate.
Unless you really, truelly, honestly plan on spending the majority of your time driving through the wilderness, that type of tire is the wrong choice for a street driven vehicle. You will have less traction, and you put a lot more wear and tear on the roads than with a more street friendly ( and safer, better handling tire) tread design.
Now, maybe that Winterforce is a bit too much in the oposite direction, but a good all-season, or an All-Terrain style tread would be a much better choice. While I still don't like the amount of siping on them (or lack thereof), the BFG All-Terrain T/A KO is a decent middle ground.
For a good all-season with good winter traction as well, my preference is the Continental CrossContact LX: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=CrossContact+LX
 






What you want isn't really possible. A tire that is ideal for mud and deep/loose snow, is going to SUCK on ice. All of the aggressive M/T's I;ve ever seen have a bunch of smooth tread blocks that essentially act as a bunch of miniature slicks on ice. Yes, that tread design will "dig" very well in mud and/or deep,loose snow (unplowed). They will not work well on ice or hard packed snow (plowed). If you look at tires rated for snow and ice, they have a lot of little grooves in the treadblocks, called "sipes". These sipes create hundreds of "sharp" edges to help the tire bite into the ice.
These tires are a good example of what siping is: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....d&autoModClar=

Compare that to the tread design of the BFG M/T KM:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rrain+T%2FA+KM

I don't care what "people say", it simply isn't physically possible for that tread design to be anything but roller skates on ice, even wet/slick roads. The only people saying otherwise must be the ones who clog up the highway in "bad" weather crawling along at 25mph on an interstate.
Unless you really, truelly, honestly plan on spending the majority of your time driving through the wilderness, that type of tire is the wrong choice for a street driven vehicle. You will have less traction, and you put a lot more wear and tear on the roads than with a more street friendly ( and safer, better handling tire) tread design.
Now, maybe that Winterforce is a bit too much in the oposite direction, but a good all-season, or an All-Terrain style tread would be a much better choice. While I still don't like the amount of siping on them (or lack thereof), the BFG All-Terrain T/A KO is a decent middle ground.
For a good all-season with good winter traction as well, my preference is the Continental CrossContact LX: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rossContact+LX

exactly what I was going to say
 






I wouldn't have a problem with buying those winterforces, but are there any down sides to them? Then possibly buy a mt in spring.
 






okay now my question is, is there a tire very simialr to the winterforce but will alow me to buy it in a 31? The last once just seems a little non truck style idk.
 






I wouldn't have a problem with buying those winterforces, but are there any down sides to them? Then possibly buy a mt in spring.

The biggest negative of a dedicated winter/snow tire is also one of the things that make them so good at what they do. The tread compound is quite a bit softer than an all-season,etc.... This is another important thing that helps them to grip so well. Unfortunately, this means that tread wear is much more rapid than more all around tires; especially when used on dry pavement.
Their unique design features also mean that they are less effective in delivering dry ground traction, due to both the extremely soft compound, and the inherent "instability" of the very "cut up" tread blocks. (All those sipes can make the individual tread blocks "wiggle" around under load.)
That said, they seem to get very good reviews, and you can't beat the price!
As I said, I think a good all-season Mud/Snow rated tire is the best compromise. Those Conti CrossContacts due a great all-around job. I just spent the last hour digging around the TireRack site, and the Firestone Destination A/T as well as the Goodyear SilentArmor also seem to get very good reviews. I have never used those personally though.

While the Winterforce will get you the ultimate winter traction, you'll need to change them pretty quickly when the spring comes. With the all-seasons, you'll get almost the same winter performance, as well as good treadwear, and you can leave them on all year.

My $.02 :D
 






okay now my question is, is there a tire very simialr to the winterforce but will alow me to buy it in a 31? The last once just seems a little non truck style idk.

Any of the other tires I mentioned in my previous post above.
A 245/75/16 is the same diameter/height as a 31x10.50xR15
Also, keep in mind, it's NOT a truck. P-metric standard load tires are fine for an Explorer. Unless you're towing something fairly heavy, LT tires will just make it ride harsher and put more stress on the drivetrain/suspension. Keep in mind, LT tires are also heavier than an equivalent size non-LT tire. This additional "unsprung" rotating weight will reduce your fuel economy, reduce handling, and make it harder to acclerate, as wel as stop. So, unless you need them, it is a waste to use LT tires on an Explorer.

Also, don't forget: If you change to a different tire size than what came stock, you'll need a "programmer", such as an xcal3, to correct your speedo, as well as to insure proper ABS operation and trans shifting. The Explorer ECM calculates trans shift points based on MPH, not the more traditional engine rpm/throttle position. Therefor, incorrect speed sensor data, due to incorrect/non-stock tire size, will affect much more than just the speedo.
 






IMO, the best all around tire is going to be a BFG AT, or Cepek FCII. They don't really excel at anything, but they are pretty good at everything.
 






Hmm okay, well what about a cooper discover ms?
 






IDK about the MS, but I know the ST is good. the MS is more of a highway tire.
 









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