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I know the forum knows all and sees all, so I am posting this question here before I go purchase a new desktop. I have an 8 year old Dell XPS desktop that has given us many years of good service. Lately, I noticed the screen would go dark, then come back a few seconds later. Tonight, it appeared to crash with the screen looking like the pictures below. It tries to reboot, but through the stripes I can read it telling me something is wrong. It will keep in this reboot, try to fix problem loop until I shut if off manually. Card is a ATI Radeon 5000 series, not sure which one. Is the graphics card dead?
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If its dead, anybody have a decent graphics card they would like to sell cheap so I can get this running and save all the pictures?
 


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Totally a dead graphics card "artifacting" on its way out. Like mentioned above grab an external drive bay on amazon and plug your HDD into it to recover the files.

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For some reason I thought this was a laptop but reread you in fact have a desktop.


You can pick up a used radeon 6450 for pretty cheap and it should plug and play in most systems with a simple driver update and run everything up to HD video just fine.

Sapphire Radeon HD 6450 1 GB DDR3 HDMI/DVI-D/VGA PCI-Express Graphics Card 840777053393 | eBay
 
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I walked away from desktops years ago. They just take up too much space. Everyone has a laptop in the house with a central wireless printer.
 




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Thanks.

I checked the monitor by plugging it into my laptop, works fine. I thought it was the graphics card because the interweb told me so, but don't know much about PC's. I would like to keep this old gal going for a while longer. Besides, it has all my old games loaded on it and a 26" widescreen. Thanks for that link JS, I just bought that one. I got it for $17.50 because I had a $5 voucher from Ebay for a late arrival item. That is better than a thousand+ for a new PC, and its an upgrade.

Hey, 8 years ago this PC was the shizzle! Before this happened, it still loaded fast and was fine for my needs. I like having a desktop at the house as the central computer. Old school, yes but I like sitting at my desk in my office, while wasting countless hours searching for stuff I don't need. I have a laptop that's less than a year old with a 17" touch screen that I use for work and RV camping. Sarah has a older Dell laptop. Wife has a ipad.

I will report back when new (used) card is installed. This also taught me a valuable lesson; I haven't backed up my photos in a while, and there are 8 years of memories on the desktop. As soon as its back up and running, I am going to back them up onto my laptop and a external hard drive.
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Hope it fixes the issue. I ordered the same card a few months ago for an older desktop I had that needed a replacement and it worked great.

I couldnt live without my desktop. I feel like I am accomplishing something sitting at my big desk when in reality Im usually watching 4 wheeling on youtube or playing games... or both haha;)
 




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Brain get a extra external hard drive and back it up too. I speak from experience, I lost a hard drive with every image and video pre kids. And even some of them when they were younger. The drive dropped on the floor and everything was lost. Even sent it out for a $2k recovery, and they could not save anything. :(

I didn't have to pay however.
 




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I have a 90 Gig external, but its not enough memory for the pictures I have accumulated. I have all the older kid and Explorerforum run pictures stored on it. You know, the important stuff
 




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It was the graphics card. New (used) card arrived today, plugged it in, downloaded updated driver and.....
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Thanks for the advice, best $17.50 I have spent in a while. And, its quiet too so I think the fan noise I have been hearing for the past several months was coming from the old card's fan.
 








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Talk about a cheap fix!
 




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I marked this thread as solved. I remember seeing a similar issue years ago with some old CRT monitors. Sometimes the VGA cable was bad or one of the pins got bent plugging it in. The color would lose either red, green or blue, and everything looked dark. On a side note, if you plan on getting a hard drive, get a large capacity solid state drive. They cost a little more, but the speed is so much faster that you'll never want to go back to magnetic platter hard drives. It will make your old, slow computer run like a newer model. Increase the RAM too.
 




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Now I feel like updating the RAM since its only got 8Gigs. Is it worth going to maybe 16Gigs if I get a deal?
Processor Information
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1035T Processor (CPU:0)
Name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1035T Processor
Cores: 6
Threads: 6
Signature: 100FA0h
Performance
Max Qualified Speed: 3.10 GHz
Max Turbo Core Speed: 3.10 GHz
Current Speed: 2.60 GHz
Multiplier: x 13.0 (4 - 13)
Max Turbo Core Ratio: x 15.5
Bus Speed: 200.01 MHz
Features: MMX(+), 3DNow!(+), PSE36, x86-64, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, NX, SVM
 




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I really think the bottleneck here is probably the CPU. Unless you are doing very ram intensive tasks like rendering videos ect. I highly doubt you would notice any difference in daily use by upgrading the ram. 8 gb is more than enough to do 99% of daily tasks just fine.

The most difference you will see with an upgrade is switching your hard drive to a solid state disk. Your boot and load times will really improve.


The best way to test what hardware you are using is to open the task manager by hitting "ctl + alt + dlt" and seeing which is being used the most.

I took a screenshot of mine. Unless your using 100% of your ram you do not need to upgrade. I am using less than 5 gb at full load unless gaming or rendering.

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CPU is running at about 7% and memory is at 43% so I guess I am good there. It isn't that slow and boots up fairly quickly. Its been running a lot smoother with the new graphics card.

I guess I should save my money and get a bigger external hard drive. I was looking at them on ebay. It seems much cheaper to get a hard drive and a case, than a purpose built external hard drive. 500gigs would be plenty to back up all my pictures and video since the 1TB drive is only a little over half full. I think I might even have a hard drive out of a Gateway laptop that was 2 weeks out of warranty when the power port broke and they wouldn't fix it. I had it fixed twice before I gave up and bought the daughter another one, this time a Dell.
 




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Ddr3 Ram is super cheap these days but I really dont think you would notice.

On the external HD enclosures, make sure your PC supports at least USB 2.0 or higher as anything slower will take ages to transfer files especially 500 gigs.

As far as the SSD, my boot times have went from minutes to literally 3 seconds with that upgrade. It takes longer to type my password than to load to the windows screen. :thumbsup:
 




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I have never heard of that store, so probably not.

I have been looking at external hard drives, hard drives and hard drive external cases. All I have gotten is confused upon what to purchase. I need a 1TB external drive to back up files on my PC's. Should I purchase a ready-made external hard drive? Or, should I purchase a hard drive and put it in a external case? Or, does it really matter which one I get? Please point me in the right direction.
 




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Just buy one in a case. Check out Costco, they always have good deals on them. Don't get stuck on the 1TB. That size is small now in the industry, and may be harder to find. You'll probably see 2-4TB on the shelf normally now.
 


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