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WASHINGTON - President Bush, marking Memorial Day with a speech paying tribute to fighting men and women lost in war, signed into law Monday a bill that keeps demonstrators from disrupting military funerals.

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In advance of his speech and a wreath-laying at America's most hallowed burial ground for military heroes, Bush signed the "Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act." This was largely in response to the activities of a Kansas church group that has staged protests at military funerals around the country, claiming the deaths symbolized God's anger at U.S. tolerance of homosexuals.

The new law bars protests within 300 feet of the entrance of a national cemetery and within 150 feet of a road into the cemetery. This restriction applies an hour before until an hour after a funeral. Those violating the act would face up to a $100,000 fine and up to a year in prison.

Monday's observance at Arlington National Cemetery was not a funeral, so demonstrators were free to speak their minds at the site.

And several did.

Approximately 10 people from the Washington, D.C., chapter of FreeRepublic.com, a self-styled grass roots conservative group, held signs at the entrance of the cemetery supporting U.S. troops. A large sign held by several people said, "God bless our troops, defenders of freedom, American heroes."

They were faced off against a handful of anti-gay protesters who stood across a four-lane highway as people headed toward the national burial grounds.

The FreeRepublic.com group was trying to counter demonstrations by the Kansas-based group, led by the Rev. Fred Phelps. He previously had organized protests against those who died of AIDS and gay murder victim Matthew Shepard.

In an interview at the time the House passed the bill that Bush signed Monday, Phelps charged that Congress was "blatantly violating" his First Amendment rights. He said that if became law, he would continue to demonstrate but would abide by the law's restrictions.

Bush signed a second bill Monday that allows combat troops to deposit tax-free pay into individual retirement accounts. Supporters of the legislation argued that rules governing these accounts were punishing soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq who earn only tax-free combat pay.
 



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Well its about time Bush did somethin smart. But its still 150 feet away from the funeral so its not all that great, but its on the right track. Damn protestors.
 






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If one of the family member dies, you know they wouldn't be able to have a public funeral because all of the media attention. Then WE could go talk shi* to them and get them stirred up and laugh in their face.

They were standing in the middle of a four lane highway, huh? Well, they can play in traffic all they want, because you know their luck will run out eventually when that dumptruck blows a tire and swerves into them, or someone snaps and just runs them over. Why can't the crazy people that want to run over people go after these people???
 






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BeauJ said:
They were standing in the middle of a four lane highway, huh? Well, they can play in traffic all they want, because you know their luck will run out eventually when that dumptruck blows a tire and swerves into them, or someone snaps and just runs them over. Why can't the crazy people that want to run over people go after these people???
hhhaha the time when you want crazy people in a car.....this is a step in the right direction.
 






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I see both sides of this argument... While it is *extremely* disrespectful, what some of those groups do, and it's absolutely horrible... By signing that bill, isn't Bush essentially restricting the rights that our soldiers are out there fighting and dying for? I'm not in any way, shape, or form saying that I agree with what those groups have to say, but freedom of speech and freedom of demonstration are fundamental American rights. I also don't think it's fair that he's restricting it to just military funerals. Last year when my friend Allen, an extremely out gay man and regular drag queen, died, there were a TON of people right outside the cemetery yelling for "The ****** to go be with all the other faggots in hell", and the like. It was so hard to go through that funeral... both of his parents were at the funeral, and I was positively disgusted that those protestors couldn't even shut up for 5 minutes while a mother and father buried their son. But, then again, Bush won't even let me marry my girlfriend.. why the hell would he want us to have peace at a funeral? I really despise that man sometimes.
 






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I think it's a great move.
SunSearching said:
By signing that bill, isn't Bush essentially restricting the rights that our soldiers are out there fighting and dying for?
No, they're out there fighting for another country's freedom.
 






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SunSearching said:
I see both sides of this argument... While it is *extremely* disrespectful, what some of those groups do, and it's absolutely horrible... By signing that bill, isn't Bush essentially restricting the rights that our soldiers are out there fighting and dying for? I'm not in any way, shape, or form saying that I agree with what those groups have to say, but freedom of speech and freedom of demonstration are fundamental American rights. I also don't think it's fair that he's restricting it to just military funerals. Last year when my friend Allen, an extremely out gay man and regular drag queen, died, there were a TON of people right outside the cemetery yelling for "The ****** to go be with all the other faggots in hell", and the like. It was so hard to go through that funeral... both of his parents were at the funeral, and I was positively disgusted that those protestors couldn't even shut up for 5 minutes while a mother and father buried their son. But, then again, Bush won't even let me marry my girlfriend.. why the hell would he want us to have peace at a funeral? I really despise that man sometimes.

I see the point you are getting at......but the pursuit of hapiness is also in the preamble and the protesters infinges on the pursuit of hapinees majorly. I tottly support this decision it has it place and it needed to happen protesting a funeral should never happen.
 






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BeauJ said:
They were standing in the middle of a four lane highway, huh? Well, they can play in traffic all they want, because you know their luck will run out eventually when that dumptruck blows a tire and swerves into them, or someone snaps and just runs them over. Why can't the crazy people that want to run over people go after these people???
I'm not trying to defend anyone here but I just wanted to make it clear that the highways around the entrance of Arlington Cemetary are hardly highways. There's plenty of grassy areas and paths running along every road in Arlington including these highways. There are also no dump-trucks or other large vehicles in the area (as of 9-11 you can't even drive a U-haul near Arlington Cemetery) because its so close to the Pentagon and DoD is afraid some one will detonate a bomb near the Pentagon (the Sec-Def's helicopter landing pad is a stone throw away from the end of I-395). The only dump trucks on these highways are those that were recently extending the burial grounds of Arlington Cemetary into lands that were previously populated by dense tall trees. However, this effort has finished in the recent weeks and the dump trucks have not been there since - especially not today being a holiday (I work for DoD and had to go in for a few hrs today :confused: ).
 






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IZwack said:
I'm not trying to defend anyone here but I just wanted to make it clear that the highways around the entrance of Arlington Cemetary are hardly highways. There's plenty of grassy areas and paths running along every road in Arlington including these highways. There are also no dump-trucks or other large vehicles in the area (as of 9-11 you can't even drive a U-haul near Arlington Cemetery) because its so close to the Pentagon and DoD is afraid some one will detonate a bomb near the Pentagon (the Sec-Def's helicopter landing pad is a stone throw away from the end of I-395). The only dump trucks on these highways are those that were recently extending the burial grounds of Arlington Cemetary into lands that were previously populated by dense tall trees. However, this effort has finished in the recent weeks and the dump trucks have not been there since - especially not today being a holiday (I work for DoD and had to go in for a few hrs today :confused: ).

As Johnny Carson would say, "I did not know that".

It never sais exactly where the funeral is at, but hopefully one will be somewhere and they can be a target
 






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I agree with the law, but calling Bush smart?. All he did was put pen to paper, I was told congress passed the law.
 






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But he could've vetoed it.......... Yeah... Bush veotoing anything :p
 






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