After looking at many vehicles I finally made a decision. I think the Explorer is nice and it was nice to get input from those on this forum but I don't think it really fits my needs. This week I was up north and a friend of mine has one and I was really able to see this thing is not meant for offroad at all and he agreed. I do like the highway ride of the Explorer and it may have a place in our house at some point as a second vehicle but for now I'm going with the Durango. I came to this decision because of the towing ability, the much better offroad ability and it just feels more solid to me on the road. The other thing is the interior materials seems of a much higher grade. I think I will wait untill fall to buy to get the new 8 speed trans. I think the Durnago with the Hemi and 8 speed will be something that is completely unmatched.