For all us 4.6 2V'ers out there

[2002GreyHD150]

We drive-by-wire(DBW) owners get shafted. fyrfyter612, what exactly was the issue with the elbow & the DBW TB? I know that professional products Typhoon 4.6L 2v intake manifold will work. I found a company offering ported/enlarged DBW TB's but I can't find the book mark right now.

I'm looking for little things that can add up to performance & MPG like so many others.

Rob

 

[fedyfedz]

Ok figured id ask this hear since there is some pretty good info here already. Hopefullly all my questions get answered so I can start ordering ..

i want to get more power out of my x currently i have k&n intake and magnaflow catback i run synthetic oil and will soon run synthetic everywhere. I want to do the most without destroying my tranny.... i would like to get intake manifold, bbk 70 or 75mm throttle body?(idk) can any one suggest an intake manifold/TB combo that know will work with little to no modification. I looked online alot and it gets confusing on what i actually need to complete the job. I would like to maybe get headers after those 2 mentioned then a tune. Im saving the tune for last even though i kinda want it now to correct my A/F ratio and other stuff.

Can any one recommend some products for the above things i stated or any other performance mods. I would like to make my x louder and faster,(without destroying my tranny)

 

[fedyfedz]

just found this think that might be the combo i was looking for
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com...-Gt-Professional-Products-Satin-Typhoon-Intak

would this plus a tune require me to change anything else? Would my tranny blow? What would the above link produce as far as horsepowere torque and mpg?

any help would be appreciated as to im ready to purchase when my refund check comes in...

 

[matt0248]

Fedy,

There are three pieces to this puzzle, the intake manifold, the plenum (elbow), and the Throttle Body.

The typhoon intake is a good inexpensive intake manifold, however the elbows will only work ith modification. Because the mustangs do not have a vacuum brake booster, there is no hole for the fitting. Trick Flow makes one with the hole for a fitting for the vacuum booster. So it would be a good deal if you are willing to make the necessary mods to make it all work. This little bit of advice goes for other intake manifolds as well. some mustang intakes do not use the seperate elbow, these will still work, just more modifications to the parts, which may void any manufacturer warranty on those parts.

 

[fedyfedz]

I will probably go with this set and just drill a hole with grommet and install brake booster. after that and everything thing is hooked up and ready to go do you know how much net horsepower/torque/ or mpg i would gain. And more importantly would this setup require me to tune right after our require any additional parts or upgrades? by friend said this will add some nice horsepower and at that point he was only referring to the intake manifold replacement...

 

[matt0248]

I will probably go with this set and just drill a hole with grommet and install brake booster. after that and everything thing is hooked up and ready to go do you know how much net horsepower/torque/ or mpg i would gain. And more importantly would this setup require me to tune right after our require any additional parts or upgrades? by friend said this will add some nice horsepower and at that point he was only referring to the intake manifold replacement...

NOt sure about the gains? there is a dyno chart on the manufacturer website, but it is for a slightly modified mustang engine. It will however move the HP and Tq to higher RMP ranges, so you may lose some low end torque. Yes I think this would require a tune right away. You, will be adding alot of extra air with a 75 mm t-body.

EDIT: BTW, underdrive pulleys and an e-fan would be cheaper mods at this point and free up HP and add MPG's.

 

[fedyfedz]

should be complete in a couple months once my refund check rolls around.... Only two more questions sorry to be annoying .....as far as the sound will I notice any difference in how she sounds i would assume it would make my K&n a little louder. And will there be a big difference in the low end torque?

 

[matt0248]

I can only assume that because you will be pulling in more air that the noise would be louder, how much louder is anyones guess. The low end torque may not be noticeable, but it will be there.

There is only one way to find out.

 

[fedyfedz]

thanks its will be done i promise I need a couple extra ponies under my hood..

 

[Drewstang]

I wouldn't mind trying some basic bolt ons for my 2v. I know first hand how expensive modular motors are to modify. The Marauder has roughly $10k in the engine, and I'm not done yet.

 

[Limited02]

Fedy- You might want to PM Zerodevil since he has the mods you are wanting to do and can tell you his experiences.

I personally don't think you will see that big of a gain from the intake to make the price worth it. A efan, UDP's, throttle body/plenum and tune will be the best bang in my opinion.

You might want to look into Trickflow because the have a nice H/C/I combo that will really get you moving Also, don't worry about your trans because a few guys have pushed 400HP without issue, going over that you'll have problems(mounty03 has ruined his twice)

Here's what I'd get if I had a bucks to burn-
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-K519-380-375/

 

[fedyfedz]

wow if I had 3 grand to burn I would defiently do that as well hahaha. at this point id rather go down the A efan, UDP's, throttle body/plenum and tune line, do you have a link for that combo from trick flow?

 

[Limited02]

wow if I had 3 grand to burn I would defiently do that as well hahaha. at this point id rather go down the A efan, UDP's, throttle body/plenum and tune line, do you have a link for that combo from trick flow?

Here's James Henson's website- http://hensonperformance.com/Productsft.html

You can get a few parts from there(tune and UDP's) You can also PM him(jah81592) to see if he sells anything not listed that you want.

For an Efan, I'd look into a Lincoln Mark VIII fan at the junkyard. Some people have mentioned using Taurus fans as well. The only issue with an efan is that you need to get a good controller so that it turns on when you turn your AC on. I have a cheapy that doesn't do that, has to warm up a bit and then it kicks on(sucks) Otherwise, look into a Black Magic 180 fan that may have it's own controller built in.

If you search around on mustang sites, you can usually find throttlebody/plenum combos for cheap, sometimes UDP's too.

Pretty much anything that's available for a 1999-04 Mustang GT will work for you

 

[fedyfedz]

thanks limited just a rough estimate with udp efan and the tb/plenom combo and the tune what would you think would be the horsepower i would be packing lol?

 

[Limited02]

thanks limited just a rough estimate with udp efan and the tb/plenom combo and the tune what would you think would be the horsepower i would be packing lol?

Honestly, I can't say 100% for sure, but if I had to guess and be realistic about it........I'd say with those mods you'll pick up roughly 20-30hp on the topend?

That is my guess at a minimum, it could be more but not by much. One of these days I am going to buy UDP's, a CAI and get my efan and head out to James for a custom dyno tune. That way I can see how much of a gain is acheived with those mods. It'll be a while before I'm ever able to do that

Edit: Someone on here actually did a dyno tune a while back and posted his numbers. If you wanted me to guess how much you are making at the wheels after those mods are done, I'd say 220-230hp is pushing it

 

[fyrfyter612]

We drive-by-wire(DBW) owners get shafted. fyrfyter612, what exactly was the issue with the elbow & the DBW TB? I know that professional products Typhoon 4.6L 2v intake manifold will work. I found a company offering ported/enlarged DBW TB's but I can't find the book mark right now.

I'm looking for little things that can add up to performance & MPG like so many others.

Rob

If I recall correctly the main issue was the IAC port. On the cabled tb's there is a port on the plenum elbow to mount a IAC...and with DBW there is no IAC. There were a few other small differences also.

 

[morziac]

If I recall correctly the main issue was the IAC port. On the cabled tb's there is a port on the plenum elbow to mount a IAC...and with DBW there is no IAC. There were a few other small differences also.

should be an easy fix for those with DBW who want to use a cable TB, just make up a blanking plate for the IAC port.

 

[JoshMcMadMac]

wow if I had 3 grand to burn I would defiently do that as well hahaha. at this point id rather go down the A efan, UDP's, throttle body/plenum and tune line, do you have a link for that combo from trick flow?

This should help with the pulleys and fan:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294228