Solved Ford Explorer 5 speed conversion - Going Full Manual

[gijoecam]

I think the advice about the 97 down ranger or the first gen ex is the best route. First gen ex's with manual trans are pretty common, and a manual case isn't too hard to find either.

But will it bolt-up to an SOHC motor?

 

[Turdle]

Gman has an OHV engine.

 

[gijoecam]

Gman has an OHV engine.

Crap... again, a good catch... All the Ranger and Explorer threads I've participated in over the last few days are starting to blur together....

 

[Turdle]

Crap... again, a good catch... All the Ranger and Explorer threads I've participated in over the last few days are starting to blur together....

Totally understood. Only reason I was so quick is I have touched the truck--lol

 

[Scott B.]

Do the FX4's with the manuals have the speedo sensor in the t-case? I thought they eventually did away with those on the Rangers too... (Admittedly, I haven't looked yet)

-Joe

My understanding is the t-case sensor was lost in the '98s (which was the first year of electric-shift only.)

 

[Scott B.]

But will it bolt-up to an SOHC motor?

Yes it will.

 

[kert0307]

I've got a 5 speed out of a B2 with the 2.9 (same block as the ohv)...

No manual tcase though.

 

[gmanpaint]

Wow, this thread picked up some steam today!

Ok, so far a 1354 T-case from 97 down, and a manual 5 speed trans from either a B2 or a Ranger?

Am I reading this correctly?

As far as the manual ECM goes, get one from a 95? I have the OBD1.5, (yes it is a pita).

 

[gmanpaint]

If you need any pics or part numbers, I can take some off of my '95 M5R1 and BW1354 manual.

Was yours a swap? Was it stock?

If a swap, how did you take care of the ECM issue on the 95?

 

[black91EB]

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the only difference between the 1354 and 1350 transfer cases is that the 1350 uses a slip yoke front output. This is a bad thing on a non-stock TTB setup, but with an IFS, a slip yoke-type case would probly be more than sufficient. (for those of you more knowledable, feel free to correct) Those are more common and easier to find than the manual 1354, and widen your options somwhat. Also, if you go hunting a transmission out of a BII, make sure it's the M5OD transmission. They used a mitsubishi-produced case in the mid 80s, easily identifiable by the fact that it has a pan that looks almost like an automatics on the bottom.

 

[Scott B.]

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Ok, so far a 1354 T-case from 97 down, and a manual 5 speed trans from either a B2 or a Ranger?

Am I reading this correctly?

As far as the manual ECM goes, get one from a 95? I have the OBD1.5, (yes it is a pita).

T-case - '97 down Ranger, '94 down Explorer.
Trans from either Ranger, Explorer or B2.

ECM - 95 would be the easiest.

 

[gmanpaint]

T-case - '97 down Ranger, '94 down Explorer.
Trans from either Ranger, Explorer or B2.

ECM - 95 would be the easiest.

Thanks Scott. You made it clear as day with that post..haha!

I really would like to thank everyone else who has gave some insight as well. I was starting to over think this, and confusing the crap out of myself. I read so many diff threads and posts, they started to blend into one another

Has anyone seen a "stock" double stick set up in either a Ranger or an Explorer? Just wondering.

 

[90ranajo]

If by "stock" double stick, you mean manual trans/t-case. Then yes I have. I can't take any pics for you as they are sitting on the garage floor right now. But Tbars has a manual/manual factory setup in his '95 Ranger.

 

[black91EB]

Thanks Scott. You made it clear as day with that post..haha!

I really would like to thank everyone else who has gave some insight as well. I was starting to over think this, and confusing the crap out of myself. I read so many diff threads and posts, they started to blend into one another

Has anyone seen a "stock" double stick set up in either a Ranger or an Explorer? Just wondering.

Strangely enough, I have not seen an explorer. Lots of rangers, especially 4cyl std cab short bed models, but the only manual case explorers I have seen have auto trans. Go figure.

Hopefully I will soon have a "triple stick" explorer if I can get a doubler case built.

 

[Scott B.]

Has anyone seen a "stock" double stick set up in either a Ranger or an Explorer? Just wondering.

A double-stick that controls only the transfer case (hi-lo, 2-4) to my knowledge does not exist. I think the design of the case will not allow it.

The only factory double-sticks are one for tranny, one for transfer case.

 

[black91EB]

A double-stick that controls only the transfer case (hi-lo, 2-4) to my knowledge does not exist. I think the design of the case will not allow it.

That sure would be cool if it would work though.... I've messed with some twin stick 205 stuff, having that would nice in a explorer.

 

[gmanpaint]

Well sweet then, if there is stock Manual/Manual set ups, I am searching the for sale ads for that set up. This might take some time, but that is just fine by me. I really dont need it till next spring anyways. I was going to do this because I had thought I had a good deal on a rolled Ex. Since that turned out to be bogus, I am going to take my time with this, shop for a good deal, hopefully find a rolled donor with a Man/Man set up.

 

[gmanpaint]

T-case - '97 down Ranger, '94 down Explorer.
Trans from either Ranger, Explorer or B2.

ECM - 95 would be the easiest.

Does the year matter for the trans on the B2? Going this weekend to look at an 88 B2 with Man/Man set up. Does the T-C have to be out of a Ex or Ranger?

I've got a 5 speed out of a B2 with the 2.9 (same block as the ohv)...

No manual tcase though.

What year did you get this out of? Will any of the other components work for the swap? Pedals, linkage, slave, etc...

If you need any pics or part numbers, I can take some off of my '95 M5R1 and BW1354 manual.

Yes please!

Leaving tomorrow for the weekend. The donor rig is a couple hundred miles away, and I will be there to rip this sucker apart if it all matches up. The 1354 manual on this should work as well wont it?


So there is a M5OD to look out for? There is one that will not work? Read something about the pan looking like an automatics? Any #'s on that trans? Just so I know what to look for. I can also call ahead to make sure it is not the wrong one, and save myself the headache.

Thanks guy's. your help is much appreciated!

 

[90ranajo]

Does the year matter for the trans on the B2? Going this weekend to look at an 88 B2 with Man/Man set up. Does the T-C have to be out of a Ex or Ranger?

The t-case from the BII is a BW1350. It can work, but it uses a slip yoke. Personally, I'd stay away from the BII and look for the 93-97 Ranger stuff. Manual set ups were more common in them, than in Ex's. As for the ECM, pull it out of an Ex vice a Ranger. The Ex's only had about 6 different ECMs for a '94 versus the 12 for a Ranger.

 

[gmanpaint]

Well phooey.
Was told it was a manual, but was not thinking it being a 1350. I really want the trans and the other swap parts that I can use out of it. I can get the proper T-case at a diff time. The ECM I am planning on getting out of a 95 EX. GEM from the 95 manual as well?

So I guess it just leaves the information on the trans working or not, and the swap of other needed parts.

Thanks Show!