Help needed by UK Ford Explorer owner !

[brian.mcmanus]

Hello all.

I was the proud owner of a Ford Explorer here in the UK up until last year. It was a lovely 2000 model.

Unfortunately, someone stole it and then set fire to it on a golf course ! The insurance company did pay me for the loss though so all is well there.

HOWEVER, I have since been able to get a look at the police report - in the report, one officer says that "the vehicle is fitted with a Ford key chip immobiliser and its IMPOSSIBLE to hotwire - the thief must have used the key" and because I still have both the key and the spare, the implication was that I "stole" the car myself and this was a fraud. No action was taken though and the case closed.

Now, my question is this - Have Ford done what no other company have ever done - create a car security device which is totally IMPOSSIBLE to defeat ? Or is is possible to steal a Ford Explorer without the owners key ?

Ideally I need some sort of proof which would stand up as evidence in a court. Or examples of where Explorers have been stolen and the circumstances. I dont like being accused of fraud and would like to prove that a Ford Explorer CAN be stolen without using the owners key.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

brian.mcmanus@hotmail.co.uk

 

[BrooklynBay]

Welcome to this forum! According to other police reports, they never had another case of an Explorer being stolen? I find this hard to believe. Any professional crook would know how to bypass these systems. It could be somebody which once worked either at a Ford dealership, or an alarm shop. They would know the color codes. Basically any kid which could read a schematic could figure out how to do this.

 

[Dopler174]

That Cop didn't know what he was talking about. Any car can be stolen.

 

[Donner]

Did I put a link here?

Wasn't there a link here? Do you have remote or auto start in your vehicle?

 

[CDW6212R]

Yes, any vehicle can be stolen. I'm not a thief, so I don't know how personally. The PATS module, PCM, and the keys are a matched set for any 98+ Ford. All three must agree(The PATS module checks at startup), for the fuel system to not shut down. That's all that I know, and that's just a small amount. Regards,

 

[BrooklynBay]

Thinking about this, it might be possible that the vehicle caught fire from being improperly hot wired.

 

[Blee1099]

You could easily have a bypass installed or according to a former Ford mechanic, a PATS vehicle can be started and driven without a programmed key close by.

 

[Charlie]

Wasn't there a link here? Do you have remote or auto start in your vehicle?

Yes...there was. I just looked at this thread a min ago, and saw your post with the link. It was the only response. Then I refreshed it, and all the sudden there were 6 posts.

I bet there was some type of glitch

 

[BrooklynBay]

I didn't see a link when I posted in this thread. My post was # 2.

 

[Charlie]

Just realized what it was..he made 2 identical threads.

Here was Donner's post in the other one:



Start here
Nice to hear from you... Start here.

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=199312
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[Donner]

No prob...

I thought I was losing it

 

[BrooklynBay]

The link didn't work when I clicked onto it. I found the link to the other post: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201171. This is the link from that thread: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199312