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If you had a second gen Explorer, what engine would you put in it?

Some are incorporating the wheel as part of motor, stationary rotor, rotating stator. Imagine...
 



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Only issue I have with a diesel is how do you get enough wheel speed when you need it with a low RPM engine?
The Cummins R2.8 will spin to 4500 RPM. The Kubota and Yanmar can spin over 3,000 RPM if you change the governor spring. You should be able to get enough wheel speed and power through.
 






YOu just need to get the gearing right. Throw away the explorer tranny and put an np 435 in it or a newer 5 speed . there is a dodge 5 speed people like with the 4bt i cant think of at the moment
 






YOu just need to get the gearing right. Throw away the explorer tranny and put an np 435 in it or a newer 5 speed . there is a dodge 5 speed people like with the 4bt i cant think of at the moment
NV4500? The TR4050 was used in the 90s with some dodge and ford trucks. It looks like it is in production again. The 6.16 1st gear would make a nice crawler.
 






Sorry i meant to say for the diesels you want
NV4500? The TR4050 was used in the 90s with some dodge and ford trucks. It looks like it is in production again. The 6.16 1st gear would make a nice crawler.
I meant to add that ford used close ratios with the diesels. Like the zf that came with the diesel wasnt quite as steeply geared. In my broncos i have manual clutches so i like the np 435 the best but the t18 is not much different but there are diesel versions for those too i think. Higher 1st gears around 4.5 to 1 ?
 






You just need to get the gearing right. Throw away the explorer tranny and put an np 435 in it or a newer 5 speed . there is a dodge 5 speed people like with the 4bt i cant think of at the moment

Ever try to shift a diesel manual tranny while pounding up a loose hill? Hit three grand, shift, lose forward momentum, and done. I've got a ZF 6 speed. I don't even use first unless I'm pulling something.
 






Ever try to shift a diesel manual tranny while pounding up a loose hill? Hit three grand, shift, lose forward momentum, and done. I've got a ZF 6 speed. I don't even use first unless I'm pulling something.
In a way it is similar to driving a semi truck fully loaded, starting out on the side of a steep hill. You have to move faster than Jackie Chan or you're stuck in granny gear up the hill.
 






In a way it is similar to driving a semi truck fully loaded, starting out on the side of a steep hill. You have to move faster than Jackie Chan or you're stuck in granny gear up the hill.

On tough hills I can't even do it with my 4.0 and 5 speed after years of practice. Even with the Hurst shifter... I found it best to hit the hill hard in 2nd or 3rd and just let it rev to the moon. Automatics have the advantage there.
 






7.3 powerstroke with a 4r100. It's been done on a third gen.
 






On tough hills I can't even do it with my 4.0 and 5 speed after years of practice. Even with the Hurst shifter... I found it best to hit the hill hard in 2nd or 3rd and just let it rev to the moon. Automatics have the advantage there.
I hated my manual 4 wheeling. Would always hate when the tire started to spin, and had to shift up to keep moving. Do I miss it, without a doubt. but I still didn't like it! I like automatics wheeling you don't have to worry about babysitting a clutch pedal.
 






I live in a pretty flat area i dont get much long loose uphill wheeling.

I am confused what you ladies using the clutch for once you are moving though ?🙄
 






I am confused what you ladies using the clutch for once you are moving though ?🙄
I'm not sure either, I found it's easier to shift without the clutch once the vehicle is in motion.
 






I daily a 97 F350 7.3 with a zf5, intercooled swamps injection, all the goodies
My zf5 came from a 460 truck so I have a granny 1st, it is barely even needed ever unless I am pulling a 17,000# boat out of the water
Shifting the zf5 is a slow process.............. I would never try to wheel a manual diesel, although it would be fun to mess around with, an auto has big advantages in a crawler with a diesel

My neioghbor has a Samurai 1.6L manual trans runs awesome, until we put it on snow tracks, every time you go to shift the vehicle loses all momentum, so basically you are trying to start out in 3rd gear from a dead stop if you try to shift up from 2nd...... its really not a good application for a stick. A EFI I4 or V6 with an auto would go so much better in there :), some sort of CVT transmission would be the ultimate (just like a rzr or snowmobile, always in the powerband no shifting)
 
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I daily a 97 F350 7.3 with a zf5, intercooled swamps injection, all the goodies
My zf5 came from a 460 truck so I have a granny 1st, it is barely even needed ever unless I am pulling a 17,000# boat out of the water
Shifting the zf5 is a slow process.............. I would never try to wheel a manual diesel, although it would be fun to mess around with, an auto has big advantages in a crawler with a diesel

My neioghbor has a Samurai 1.6L manual trans runs awesome, until we put it on snow tracks, every time you go to shift the vehicle loses all momentum, so basically you are trying to start out in 3rd gear from a dead stop if you try to shift up from 2nd...... its really not a good application for a stick. A EFI I4 or V6 with an auto would go so much better in there :), some sort of CVT transmission would be the ultimate (just like a rzr or snowmobile, always in the powerband no shifting)
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I guess autos are ok if you dont mind throwing away 60 horsepower heating a bunch of fluid to cook little teeny clutch packs with
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I had a Zf in an 89 f250 and i didnt think it shifted badly i didnt like its tendency to break the tailhousing around the trany mount
I did learn how to mig weld aluminum because of it though
 












So if we're going to imagine a 440 big block now. Why not imagine bigger possibilities...? like an 8.1l vortec 496...straight out of a Silverado 2500, nab a 4l80e while you're at it. Just needs a whole lot of effort put in like that samurai, cut the firewall and fab a new one and such. Leave that one to y'all though, most I'll probably do is get my X back or another X later on down the road and try to 383 swap it, so much hp and torque...😅
 






I love modular motors and happen to have a "spare" Teksid 4.6 32v w/ 4R70W tranmission. To me this would be the ultimate swap into a second gen. I already have a 5.0 in mine but with a 4.6 4valve it would make it one happy little suv!!! If this was able to be done you would have to remove just about everything from the engine bay including the a/c and that is not going to happen as I live in Florida. The 5.0 will stay but have been dreaming about supercharging it. I drive a 98Lincoln LSC that is tuned and would love the Explorer to have the power of it (330HP).
 






I love modular motors and happen to have a "spare" Teksid 4.6 32v w/ 4R70W tranmission. To me this would be the ultimate swap into a second gen. I already have a 5.0 in mine but with a 4.6 4valve it would make it one happy little suv!!! If this was able to be done you would have to remove just about everything from the engine bay including the a/c and that is not going to happen as I live in Florida. The 5.0 will stay but have been dreaming about supercharging it. I drive a 98Lincoln LSC that is tuned and would love the Explorer to have the power of it (330HP).
Oh c'mon, been in Florida the whole 20 years I've been alive. House ain't had a/c for as long as I can remember, and every vehicle I've driven in the past 3 years, ain't had a/c, both my X and Silverado. 60 mph and the windows down lol
Vent helps, but ain't great. I would say you'd be fine, but I'm not willing to get struck by that lightning! lol
So yeah, I get that one, especially with the humidity lately
 



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