Kill List

Do we have a Kill list??.. If not.. Post em..
I know some of you guys have been to tracks... what have you guys beaten and been beaten by...


Also list what you have done to your truck incase its not in your sig. In the cases of expo5.0 and especially Troll..don't bother listing what you got under your hoods... we all know :drool: lol
Troll

 

[techieman33]

Yeah, but the other guy had to go lick his peanuts for awhile thinking how his car was shown up buy a truck--ha ha
Good Kill--

I don't think he really cared much, It looked like it was his ~12 year old son that wanted him to race me, we had been sitting at the light for a while before he revved his engine at me. And his son still had a big smile on his face as I went by them, so that was probably enough to keep the dad happy.

 

[Xan]

I don't think he really cared much, It looked like it was his ~12 year old son that wanted him to race me, we had been sitting at the light for a while before he revved his engine at me. And his son still had a big smile on his face as I went by them, so that was probably enough to keep the dad happy.

Getting beat with your young kid in the car is allmost as bad as getting beat with your girlfriend in the car :

 

[rocket 5979]

I was amazingly surprised because I was SURE I was going to get my ass kicked, I mean its a mustang right? Mustangs are fast right?

V6 Mustangs are weak, very weak. Hell, the GT's only push anywhere between low 14's to mid 14's in the 1/4 in stock form. There are some people that got them into the 13's bone stock but it is not a norm whatsoever.

Same power, similar vehicle weight, and the X probably has the gearing advantage. Not too hard to figure out.

 

[jah81592]

For once I disagree with you Rob! The (05 & up Mustangs) have the same engine as my truck and not only that they have less aerodynamic drag and less weight to boot. The 05 and newer Mustangs really pick up with tuning. I have seen as much as .5 second in the 1/8th on both the v-6 and v-8 cars! Just throttle tuning (for the drive by wire) really make these cars respond. Alot of people don't know the new GT's and v-6 Mustangs don't open the throttle wot but only for a short period of time. Anything that doesn't jive the computer starts closing the throttle. Torque reduction is a ***** with drive by wire. If you have a 05 and newer (or drive by wire) car get tuned! You will feel a difference even if the throttle was the only change you had done.

 

[IZwack]

I freaking pwned a squirrel the other day.. stupid squirrel was showing me up with his crawling abilities on some rocks and I for one wasn't going to stand for it .. so I got the Creepy Crawlers warmed up and hammered it. Yeahh.. now who's fast ... afterwards, I was like what son, what?

 

[jah81592]

IZ, I believe you need a little more articulation! I believe you would get stuck on a single pea gravel. : Really your truck flexes extraordinarily well!

 

[Turdle]

I freaking pwned a squirrel the other day.. stupid squirrel was showing me up with his crawling abilities on some rocks and I for one wasn't going to stand for it .. so I got the Creepy Crawlers warmed up and hammered it. Yeahh.. now who's fast ... afterwards, I was like what son, what?

 

[Dan Whitaker]

I freaking pwned a squirrel the other day.. stupid squirrel was showing me up with his crawling abilities on some rocks and I for one wasn't going to stand for it .. so I got the Creepy Crawlers warmed up and hammered it. Yeahh.. now who's fast ... afterwards, I was like what son, what?

Lets see you own this Senator.

 

[rocket 5979]

For once I disagree with you Rob! The (05 & up Mustangs) have the same engine as my truck and not only that they have less aerodynamic drag and less weight to boot. The 05 and newer Mustangs really pick up with tuning. I have seen as much as .5 second in the 1/8th on both the v-6 and v-8 cars! Just throttle tuning (for the drive by wire) really make these cars respond. Alot of people don't know the new GT's and v-6 Mustangs don't open the throttle wot but only for a short period of time. Anything that doesn't jive the computer starts closing the throttle. Torque reduction is a ***** with drive by wire. If you have a 05 and newer (or drive by wire) car get tuned! You will feel a difference even if the throttle was the only change you had done.

James,

I think this will be one area where I will have to disagree back. First off you are telling me stuff that I already know here with regards to the engine, drag coefficient, weight, moddability and so on. I still believe that Mustang's should be represented in the correct manner. While having a V6 version to help sell these cars to normal people may seem fine and dandy to Ford, I believe it cheapens the model overall.

The 4.0 V6 Mustang's can be made to go quick when modded (as with any vehicle), however in stock form it is a pig. I just find it funny when people are shocked when they race and beat a V6 Mustang. It is a V6 full size car that is only packing 210 hp. By today's standards that is not much power at all for a V6 "Sports Car". A "sports car" should not run low-mid 15's in the 1/4 mile.

 

[Xan]

James,

I think this will be one area where I will have to disagree back. First off you are telling me stuff that I already know here with regards to the engine, drag coefficient, weight, moddability and so on. I still believe that Mustang's should be represented in the correct manner. While having a V6 version to help sell these cars to normal people may seem fine and dandy to Ford, I believe it cheapens the model overall.

The 4.0 V6 Mustang's can be made to go quick when modded (as with any vehicle), however in stock form it is a pig. I just find it funny when people are shocked when they race and beat a V6 Mustang. It is a V6 full size car that is only packing 210 hp. By today's standards that is not much power at all for a V6 "Sports Car". A "sports car" should not run low-mid 15's in the 1/4 mile.

Yup i don't know why they added on so much extra weight to the new mustangs when they have been making them alot lighter for many years before.
NoBody likes a fatty!!

 

[jah81592]

James,

I think this will be one area where I will have to disagree back. First off you are telling me stuff that I already know here with regards to the engine, drag coefficient, weight, moddability and so on. I still believe that Mustang's should be represented in the correct manner. While having a V6 version to help sell these cars to normal people may seem fine and dandy to Ford, I believe it cheapens the model overall.

The 4.0 V6 Mustang's can be made to go quick when modded (as with any vehicle), however in stock form it is a pig. I just find it funny when people are shocked when they race and beat a V6 Mustang. It is a V6 full size car that is only packing 210 hp. By today's standards that is not much power at I am just merely stating the drive by wire throttle on a stock vehicle is really all for a V6 "Sports Car". A "sports car" should not run low-mid 15's in the 1/4 mile.

The stock throttle is geared toward well.. I don't know, nothing! So just tuning the throttle nothing else would probably shown a different result! Besides you may know this stuff but don't take into account that alot of other enthusists might not. Kinda like the professor which sees the same stuff every day and assumes everyone else should know it too. Stand back and look at my statement from a different perspective and you will see what I was trying to say. Whoa there,Robert..slow down!

 

[rocket 5979]

The stock throttle is geared toward well.. I don't know, nothing! So just tuning the throttle nothing else would probably shown a different result! Besides you may know this stuff but don't take into account that alot of other enthusists might not. Kinda like the professor which sees the same stuff every day and assumes everyone else should know it too. Stand back and look at my statement from a different perspective and you will see what I was trying to say. Whoa there,Robert..slow down!

James,

I think we have a communication problem here. I am talking about how slow I believe the S197 V6 Mustangs are in stock form and you keep bringing up what mods can do to TBW. Like I said before, in modded form any vehicle even an Explorer can be fast. I have seen 9 second turbo 4 banger Mustangs and even 9 second turbo 3.8 V6 Mustang's. Just because a few examples can be made to go fast does not negate the fact that those cars in V6 form are not fast. Being that they are not fast it is presumable that a person should not be nearly as shocked when they beat one. With the V6 model the name Mustang does not necessarily equal "fast". With that said, it is my personal belief that a vehicle of that power should not be present in a "sports car" model of car. That is not just my preference for V8's talking either. If that 6'er had a V6 engine with more power in it then that would be fine with me. I just think that 210 hp coming out of a V6 Mustang doesn't represent the model very well when you have had 210 hp Explorer's for years now.



James, you also might want to recheck your quote. I just reread it and I think you somehow got someone else's comment about drive by wire mixed in with my quote by the looks of it.

Whoa there,Robert..slow down!

Whoa there, James..slow down....when quoting!..... Hehehehehehehe. I SO got you back! You know I love you buddy.......in a car guy, motor oil, dirty garage floor kind of way...

 

[JDraper]

Just a little something on the '05-'05 V-6 Mustangs

0-60 mph : 6.6 sec.(manual), 6.9 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 15.0 sec @ 92.1 mph(manual), 15.3 sec @ 91.0 mph(auto)

From http://www.modernracer.com/fordmustangv6.html

 

[rocket 5979]

Just a little something on the '05-'05 V-6 Mustangs

0-60 mph : 6.6 sec.(manual), 6.9 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 15.0 sec @ 92.1 mph(manual), 15.3 sec @ 91.0 mph(auto)

From http://www.modernracer.com/fordmustangv6.html

Those are some decent numbers, but everywhere I have seen them they usually went quite a bit slower. Obviously driver will come into play but still. It would be best if the V6 Stangs at least held their own with stock 3.5 V6 Altima's or something. After all, those cars have .5 liter less displacement and run a considerable amount more power. I do not have the torque figures on those engines though so I cannot speak for that part.

 

[snocross1985]

The 07 Altima with the 3.5 V6 puts out 270 HP and 258 ft-lbs. of torque. Not to shabby at all.

 

[Jakee]

Just a little something on the '05-'05 V-6 Mustangs

0-60 mph : 6.6 sec.(manual), 6.9 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 15.0 sec @ 92.1 mph(manual), 15.3 sec @ 91.0 mph(auto)

From http://www.modernracer.com/fordmustangv6.htmlhttp://www.modernracer.com/fordmustangv6.htmlhttp://www.modernracer.com/fordmustangv6.html

I believe I'm right about here with my X's N/A performance. These are the numbers i'm seeing with my hill-billy testing. I might be just a WEEE bit faster but very close. Shoot, I'll go ahead and toot my own horn, I think that's pretty good for a V6 explorer. Now I need to throw a turbo on it so I have some good kill stories to tell.

 

[rocket 5979]

I believe I'm right about here with my X's N/A performance. These are the numbers i'm seeing with my hill-billy testing. I might be just a WEEE bit faster but very close. Shot, I'll go ahead and toot my own horn, I think that's pretty good for a V6 explorer. Now I need to throw a turbo on it so I have some good kill stories to tell.

I do hope that those of you that have V6 Explorer's do not think I am trying to bash all V6's here. I have a feeling that you all know where I am coming from here but I just wanted to put that out to have it said. These things can be made to be VERY respectable; and some even quite fast like James has. Jake, yourself and the few others who have really modded your V6 X as far within normal reason (non-stroked or blown), should definately toot your own horns as low 15's and high 14's is pretty good for a heavier vehicle that was not intended for performance from the factory. That is essentially the proportional equivalent of a Camaro (mid-high 13 seconds stock) owner putting their car into the low 12's which does take a little doing.

 

[Jakee]

Rocket - I know exactly what you're meaning here. There are other V6 motors out there that pack a better punch than the 4.0 SOHC. I do agree with that statement 100%. But, I'm not sure if those engines respond to bolt-ons as well as the SOHC 4.0? If they do then that's even more impressive to me. If they don't, then they pretty much maxed it out at the factory. From what I’m seeing, the 4.0 SOHC is being held back at the factory. I guess for reliability sake?

Even if i do toot my own horn, i still feel like I'm SLOW AS A TURDLE. That won't change until I force feed this thing. I know that. If you've ever been in a fast car, 14 - 15 seconds feels pretty slow. But, It's pretty good on our heavy trucks, i guess....

I'm looking for the 13's OR 12's...Yeah, 12's sounds good...

 

[rocket 5979]

Rocket - I know exactly what you're meaning here. There are other V6 motors out there that pack a better punch than the 4.0 SOHC. I do agree with that statement 100%. But, I'm not sure if those engines respond to bolt-ons as well as the SOHC 4.0? If they do then that's even more impressive to me. If they don't, then they pretty much maxed it out at the factory. From what I’m seeing, the 4.0 SOHC is being held back at the factory. I guess for reliability sake?

Even if i do toot my own horn, i still feel like I'm SLOW AS A TURDLE. That won't change until I force feed this thing. I know that. If you've ever been in a fast car, 14 - 15 seconds feels pretty slow. But, It's pretty good on our heavy trucks, i guess....

I'm looking for the 13's OR 12's...Yeah, 12's sounds good...

Taking those Altima's as an example I do hear that they have a pretty good aftermarket for them to build even more power in modded form. For a N/A V6 that is really impressive.

It is really all about relativity. I consider a S197 4.0 V6 Mustang slow because it is a "sports car". However, when I see a V6 Explorer run the same kind of time then it is allot more respectable due to it being an SUV and not billed as a "performance vehicle". 12 second Corvette = "It figures".... 12 second Explorer = "What the F*CK do you have done to that monster!!!". Total difference in expectations for the different types of vehicles.

BTW Jake, I have a little fella named 60-1 that is coming to visit me at my house for a while. I think he wants to say hi to you.

 

[Jakee]

Rocket - Tell the little fellow that he'll be with daddy soon. hehee