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Mountaineer97TM

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My car went to Ford today to check an Oil leak because I can't due it with my back screwed up and they told my I need to replace My Lower Ball Joints?? How hard is this to do. Can I do it myself. They told me it would cost $800. Please Someone help ME!!!
 



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Lower ball joints are pretty simple to do. Try a search for them and I am sure you will find install instructions. $800 is WAY too much. A little mechanical know-how and a loaner balljoint removal tool is all you really need.
 






Thats about 500 to much for a shop
 






You can get complete lower control arms, including ball joints and bushings for about $90 through Ford Parts Network. Balljoints themselves are about $40/side. Autozone rents a lot of the specailty tools you'll need to do the job.
 






Wow $800, where do you live "Rip Off Britain" http://www.rip-off.co.uk/index1.htm? LOL. I wonder if they are even telling you the truth about your ball joints?! What--if any--indications are you having?
 






Hey thanks for all the information. I will check in on that. I live right outside of Atlantic City, New Jersey. I was having no problems but it was in for a check up on a oil leak and they told me that.
 






While they are not hard to replace, they take quite a while your first time. Search on here for the detailed instructions.

It's a good idea to have all the tools rented from Autozone/where-ever to do the job ....

Agreed, you would know if your ball-joints were going ... Any strange or sounds that should not be happening when you make turns and such ???
 






Should we survey when others have replaced their ball joints and what Xplorer they have?

This is interesting. This guy is in the exact same boat.
http://forums.vmag.com/suvexplorer0199/messages/5256.html

Another guy spent $400+: http://www.2carpros.com/topics/suspen.htm

Xplorer Maintenance: http://www.glue.umd.edu/~singletn/web/pages/misc.html

specs: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PDFs/Moog_Ball_joint_spec_chart.pdf (see p14 and the bottom)

NHTSA...I didn't see any recalls on suspension--except sway bar links. I wonder if anyone has had problems with these? I just got a set on eBay for $5: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/RecallSearch.cfm
 






Just an FYI, I had a Ford mechanic do BOTH upper and lowers on a side job for $450.
 












Thanks for All the Info Guys. I have get time to do this now.
 






when is your inspection due ? do you have any uneven wear on tires, slop in steering , cracking noise over bumps ? jack up your front end and take a long pry bar , and lift up onthe tire in a repeative motion , . thats usually the primary check on the ball joints . of you have exessive movement and can see the joints moving ..
id definetly get that checked somewhere else

800 dollars, thats insaine .
 






The following is a paste from http://forums.vmag.com/suvexplorer0199/messages/5256.html
HMPH! You say $500, my dealer is saying over $1100 for my 97 Ford Explorer. (maybe you were talking about 1?)

I now just use this car to travel back & forth about 2 miles to the beach on weekends. Any opinions about whether I can hold off on this?

: : : Has anyone ever had any problems with the explorer sport's ball joint for the steering wheel?

: : Apparently, there is a design flaw with the lower ball joints in atleast the 97-98 Ford Explorer. The seal compound deteriorates prematurely. My Explorer Sport has 60k, when it developed this incredible squeaking noise. Expect to pay $480 for a dealer to replace the lower ball joints.

: : Talk to the parts department at your dealer, you will find them stocking and selling many lower ball joints. My parts guy told me that Ford changed the part number, usually indicating a redesign part. But surprise surprise, no recall or willingness to help the consumer. Also intersting to note, they dropped the price of the lower ball joint to $18/ball joint. Go to an after market seller, $40-$50/ unit. Maybe this is Ford's way of helping the consumer.

: : Note the Hayes Manual will tell you that lower ball joints on the 1995 and later models are not servicable and require the replacement of the lower control arm. (NOT TRUE) Again, talk to your parts department, they are not replacing control arms, just the lower ball joints.

: : I did the job. If you are an adventurous backyard mechanic.... if you have more than a hammer and an adjustable wrench, you can probably do the job yourself. You'll need penetrating oil, 1 1/4 impact socket(6 points) for the wheel hub nut, a pickle fork, rent a ball joint press (auto parts store or places like Taylor Rental), snap ring pliars, and an afternoon. Essentially, you have to remove the steering knuckle in order to access the lower ball joint. Removing of the disk, requires removal of the caliper bracket. To do so, you will need to apply a propane torch to the bolts to release the lock-tite.

: : The dealership service people will tell you they will have to aline the front end, but it is not necessary if you do not adjust the tie rod end.

: : A Ford mechanic pulled me aside as I was leaving the garage and told me it takes 45 - 60 minutes to do the job for them.....yet they charge $480-$500 to do the job in the shop. Remember, the part is $18.

: Yep they are trying to get me for 2 of these damn things. The tech shows me about 1/16 " movement up & down on the tire with 80K miles on the vehicle.
 






Do yourself a favor and DON'T buy Motorcraft replacements, they suck. Get a set of Moog lower ball joints. They come complete with a hardware kit for each joint, including new snap rings. They don't cost much more than stockers, and they have grease points and have a lifetime warranty. They are built so much better than stock it's scary.

Good Luck.
 












Just found my next project for BOTH my explorers ....
I checked the wife's earlier today because she picked up a vibration in the front and the tire on the LF is worn down to the steel belt in one spot . The tire is about a year old :mad: ....... I think it may have slipped a belt . If not the alignment is off .
I checked the lower ball while I had it up and there is a bit of slop in it .
Only question I have is about the upper control arm , by looks the ball joint is not replacable in the upper correct ?
Also , does anyone make aftermarket lower control arm bushings ? Good ones ?
 






Nope, joint not replaceable on the upper control arms. You have to buy the whole arm with the joint in it. They ain't cheap either, from what I remember.
 






They are like 90 bucks a side from fordpartsonline with bushings too :)
 






Why would you want Ford stock balljoints? They are horrible.
 



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My factory lower ball joints lasted a whopping 26k. Got 'em replaced under warranty, but I'll bet I've gotta get new ones again at 50K :fire:
 






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