No Fuel and no Start.

[nvrlate]

I bought a 95 Explorer off a relative for cheap because it wasn't running and they needed cash. So here's what's going on. According to my brother-in-law he said it was running bad for a while before if finally would not start. This is what I have done so far. I checked all the fuses and replaced the fuel pump relay and it didn't help. I checked to see if I had any pressure on the fuel rail and I do not. I couldn't get my gauge installed on the port because some idiot at Ford thought it was a good idea to put a bundle of very stiff wires right next to it. Any way I have no pressure at the rail. I thought I would check to see if I had any type of blockage at the fuel filter so I attempted to take the filter off but what a disaster this has turned into. To make a long story short I was desperate to find out if I had fuel before the filter and I could not remove it. I have several different size metal disconnect tools and none of them did the trick. I even broke one. Any way I ended up cutting the filter off and now I have another problem on my hands.

My first question: If worse comes to worse can I cut the ends of the fuel lines off and put in an in-line filter with hose clamps?

After the filter was removed I turned the ignition to on and no fuel came out of the open line. I tried starting it and not a single drop came out of the line.

Second question: Before I change the fuel pump is there anything else I should check?

I would appreciate any suggestions you may have.
Thanks,
Dave

 

[slpdave]

the effect is caused by the pump not puming fuel, this could be from no power to the pump to a dead pump. check voltage to the pump. also listen with the key on and see if you hear the pump running (it's inside the fuel tank).

BTW. There is a recent thread about this.

David

 

[nvrlate]

the effect is caused by the pump not puming fuel, this could be from no power to the pump to a dead pump. check voltage to the pump. also listen with the key on and see if you hear the pump running (it's inside the fuel tank).

BTW. There is a recent thread about this.

David

How do you check voltage to the pump? I don't hear it come on at all. I know there are many threads that are similar but I posed a question that I did not find anywhere else and that is "Can you install an in-line fuel filter"?

Thanks

 

[aldive]

Prior to ruining your fuel line, did you turn on the key and listen for th fuel pump?

You are going to have to replace the fuel line.

Good luck .......

 

[dynamite196]

if he said it was getting worse and worse and finally died one day it's almost guaranteed to be the fuel pump. How many miles on the truck?

 

[nvrlate]

Prior to ruining your fuel line, did you turn on the key and listen for th fuel pump?

You are going to have to replace the fuel line.

Good luck .......

Yes I did listen for the pump to turn on and it did not make a sound. Also I did not ruin the fuel lines I cut the fuel filter. I am very lucky to have been able to get the ends of the fuel filter out of the lines this morning. It only took me a couple of minutes with the plastic fuel line removal tools and a pair of needle nose pliers. The metal ones weren't doing the trick.

 

[nvrlate]

if he said it was getting worse and worse and finally died one day it's almost guaranteed to be the fuel pump. How many miles on the truck?

Well over 150k.

 

[dynamite196]

I'm putting my money on the pump.

 

[Dan Whitaker]

My pump went out at around 145,000.

Just so you know a new pump will run $250-$300 & it is inside the tank.

 

[aldive]

Yes I did listen for the pump to turn on and it did not make a sound. Also I did not ruin the fuel lines I cut the fuel filter. I am very lucky to have been able to get the ends of the fuel filter out of the lines this morning. It only took me a couple of minutes with the plastic fuel line removal tools and a pair of needle nose pliers. The metal ones weren't doing the trick.

Great, glad you saved the line ( expensive and a ***** to replace ).

 

[aldive]

By the way, when you cut the filter, how did its innards look?

 

[slpdave]

How do you check voltage to the pump? I don't hear it come on at all. I know there are many threads that are similar but I posed a question that I did not find anywhere else and that is "Can you install an in-line fuel filter"?

Thanks

I have never checked voltage on the fuel pump....but it's just a pump. so you need to find the wires that supply power to the pump. probably easily done at the fuse box.

David

 

[nvrlate]

By the way, when you cut the filter, how did its innards look?

I only cut the tubing on either side of the filter. I did not cut the filter in half. I have a new one but haven't installed it yet. I'm waiting to drop the tank next.

 

[nvrlate]

Just so you know a new pump will run $250-$300 & it is inside the tank.

Really it's $93 for the thin terminal version and $119 for the wide at Auto Zone. Do you think those are missing something? What should I be looking for?

 

[dynamite196]

the autozone pump is fine if you have the time pull out the old one first and bring it with you to compare it to the new one. sometimes at autozone and stores like that they have a tendency to mix up parts for similar vehicles. 200-300 is probably the cost of an oem one, hardly worth it considering how old the vehicle is and how much you paid for it.

 

[Dan Whitaker]

Maybe you have better luck with Auto Zone but I won't buy a thing from them. The one in Raytown never has the part in stock, the manager is a d!ck & the people working there don't know a damn thing.

On something like the fuel pump I would go with a Ford only part.

Mine cost me me $400 because I was stranded in Des Moines Iowa & this is what the place I had to have it repaired at charged for the pump. I know they marked it up but it was a Ford OEM part.