RHall
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- City, State
- Blue Bell, PA
- Year, Model & Trim Level
- 19 Explorer Sport 4WD
Have a 2019 Sport I picked up at the end of May after trading in a 2014 Limited.
About 3-4 weeks ago I suddenly started getting the dreaded NO GPS symbol. Sometimes I have signal for a few minutes, then it goes out. Sometimes over night it will return, or just won't work for days in a row. Or sometimes it won't work for an hour or two - and then suddenly starts working only to stop a little while later. Argh.... And of course its extra frustrating because I use Carplay all the time with my iPhone - and as others noted, when you are using CarPlay, all the map applications use the vehicles GPS and not the devices GPS - which fouls up the iPhone as well. Unplug the iPhone, and its map display shoots right back to correct location, plug it back in to use CarPlay, and location goes crazy because car is in NO GPS mode. I've also see the noted bug where Waze calculates the vehicle speed incorrectly because the Sync system is sending it back to the device incorrectly...
Wish there was a toggle to allow you to choose which GPS was used (device or vehicle) when using Carplay...
In any case, to solve the NO GPS indicator/issue, I have tried Master Reset to no avail. I was going to try pulling the battery or the fuse, but ran across this (and other similar posts) and will try the Soft Reset first.
I had gone into the diagnostics, and it was seeing plenty of satellites, but wasn't updating the fields above it with location info, etc. when exhibiting the NO GPS. I will check to see if the APIM and GPSM modules have same version numbers.... Hoping the soft-reset maybe does the trick.
I have a TSB/Recall/Field Service Action for the Anti-Lock Brake System Module Software Update on my VIN, that I have been meaning to take into the dealer to get resolved, but knowing they will be tinkering with the APIM for that, I was hoping to avoid confusion...
If I find a solution, short of trip to the dealer I'll share here - otherwise will share results of visit to the dealer after I can get it to them.
Funny thing, my 2014 Limited, started doing similar stuff occasionally in late 2018 into 2019 - it didn't have CarPlay of course, but the built in Nav/GPS would occasionally go totally out of wack, only to return to normal a few days later. It only started doing that 4.5 years into owning it. Sigh....
About 3-4 weeks ago I suddenly started getting the dreaded NO GPS symbol. Sometimes I have signal for a few minutes, then it goes out. Sometimes over night it will return, or just won't work for days in a row. Or sometimes it won't work for an hour or two - and then suddenly starts working only to stop a little while later. Argh.... And of course its extra frustrating because I use Carplay all the time with my iPhone - and as others noted, when you are using CarPlay, all the map applications use the vehicles GPS and not the devices GPS - which fouls up the iPhone as well. Unplug the iPhone, and its map display shoots right back to correct location, plug it back in to use CarPlay, and location goes crazy because car is in NO GPS mode. I've also see the noted bug where Waze calculates the vehicle speed incorrectly because the Sync system is sending it back to the device incorrectly...
Wish there was a toggle to allow you to choose which GPS was used (device or vehicle) when using Carplay...
In any case, to solve the NO GPS indicator/issue, I have tried Master Reset to no avail. I was going to try pulling the battery or the fuse, but ran across this (and other similar posts) and will try the Soft Reset first.
I had gone into the diagnostics, and it was seeing plenty of satellites, but wasn't updating the fields above it with location info, etc. when exhibiting the NO GPS. I will check to see if the APIM and GPSM modules have same version numbers.... Hoping the soft-reset maybe does the trick.
I have a TSB/Recall/Field Service Action for the Anti-Lock Brake System Module Software Update on my VIN, that I have been meaning to take into the dealer to get resolved, but knowing they will be tinkering with the APIM for that, I was hoping to avoid confusion...
If I find a solution, short of trip to the dealer I'll share here - otherwise will share results of visit to the dealer after I can get it to them.
Funny thing, my 2014 Limited, started doing similar stuff occasionally in late 2018 into 2019 - it didn't have CarPlay of course, but the built in Nav/GPS would occasionally go totally out of wack, only to return to normal a few days later. It only started doing that 4.5 years into owning it. Sigh....