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oh ya know just another 2nd gen sas in the works

After many years of my 1996 XLT sitting in storage it is time to start collecting parts for the explorer build..
My set up will be a full width Dana 44\9", Wild Horses 5.5" springs 5:13 gears and locked front and rear. Seems to me thats what most people have done on here and seems to work great
Let the prosess begin
Here is my XLT With the basic torsion twist, shackles and body lift
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Here is the 9" that i will be running (been sitting outside)
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ahh much better :)
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HP 44
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My steering witch i will be running with a first gen box..i also have a James Duff drop pitman arm for a first gen made for a 5.5" lift
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Other parts that i have are: Bronco 5.5" coil springs,Bronco coil buckets from Bronco Graveyard. Bronco shock towers, 7 Degree C-bushings. All i need now is to gear an lock my axles witch will be happening in a few weeks and find a set of solid axle radius arms and brackets...im sure im missing a bunch but it will all be purchaced or made during the build..I will keep you guys updated..like i said im going to buy mu gears,install kits etc in a few weeks as soon as the moneys there..enjoy!:salute:
 



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What size tires you running? If it is going to be mainly a wheeling vehicle I would really consider going with 5.38's expectially if you are getting tires any bigger than a 35". I would have if I went with a 9" rear. Mine's a first generation explorer though. Looks like you did your homework though. :thumbsup:
 






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What size tires you running? If it is going to be mainly a wheeling vehicle I would really consider going with 5.38's expectially if you are getting tires any bigger than a 35". I would have if I went with a 9" rear. Mine's a first generation explorer though. Looks like you did your homework though. :thumbsup:

yes i did do my homework for sure thanks to this forum..i am going to run 5:13 gears. i have heard that 5:38's are weak. i think the 5:13 ratio will be good but eventually i am going to do the 1350\1354 doubler..t-case gears make a WORLD of difference..when i did the 4:70.1 in my old 4Runner it felt like a totally different truck in low-range..my plan is to get the sas done by summer so i will wheel it with 5:13's, lockers, stock case, 4R55E trans and 4.0L then soon after i will do the doubler and the future mods are a 5.0L and a 5-Speed...tomorrow i might start the disc brake conversion on the 9"..i am running dana 44 rotors, 1982 K-10 calipers, and 3\8" steel home made brackets for the calipers ...i may post some pics tomorrow..
 






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Let the 9" disc brake conversion begin..keep you gous updated on the progress
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ok so im scratching the idea of using dana 44 calipers because i have to modify my 9" axle shaft flanges.. i got to thinking..what if u break an axle shaft on the trail? i would be screwed because i would need to modify my spair too..
 






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this will be a nice build. good luck.


i had the same setup for years and it worked great. you may want to look into lengthening your RAs and adding rod ends. it works better and looks way better.


i ran 4.88s and 37s and it worked fine, but your right 5.10 will be way better.
 






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ok guys..sorry for not updating for a while..but here is whats happening.. got the brakes finnished on the 9"! i got my 5:13's and master overhaul kit and spool now i am in the middle of setting the gears up..i hope that it will be donr by thursday and i can have the axle put back together and move the HP 44 in the garage and start working on that...i might also buy a set of Wild Horses extended radius arms..all the parts are comming together and i cant wait to start cutting the IFS out and turning it into a rock crawler..keep u guys updated..
 






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Make sure you post some detailed pics of how you mount the steering box, thats the part that is keeping me from doing a SAS
 






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I would go with Duff longarms or the Cage longarms which are now called Bloody Knuckle Garage.
 






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I would go with Duff longarms or the Cage longarms which are now called Bloody Knuckle Garage.

Looks like a good build. I am currently building mine and doing the Cage arms... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 






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hmmm how about an update?? haha sorry i havnt posted in a while..so here is the progress..i got the 9" geared, spooled and ready to rock..the 44 is going to be moved into the garage to start building it..here are a few pics of the progress

sorry for beaing so dark but this is pulling the 9" apart

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new gears :)

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i do not own a vice so this is where my redneck engineering comes into play with torqing the ring gear to the spool

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progress..

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got the backlash and pinion depth perfect now on to the next axle..the next pic really doesnt have anything to do with this build but this is what happened to my jeep last weekend..yes pinion gear sheared clean off of a dana 35..this truck is my girlfriends baby and her daily driver and yes she was driving and yes she loves the skinny pedal :)

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so what do u guys recomend for radius arm brackets?
 






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so what do u guys recomend for radius arm brackets?

That depends entirely on your radius arms. If you are gonna run extended stock arms you should look at Stic-o's sas thread, he modified stock brackets from his donor vehicle (77 f-150 iirc) and the turned out nice and work great
 






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i have been reading Stic-o's thread like crazy..i saw that he modified those brackets but im going to be running the Wild Horses arms..do i have to modify stock brackets regardless or is there a stock bracket that i can get from James Duff or Wild Horses that will work for the explorer frame?
 






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So i just pulled the beast out of the forest where it has been sitting for a few years..fired right up but i think it needs tranny fluid because it only moves when it hits 4 grand haha oh well the trans is comming out anyways..the original plan for this truck as dana 60's front and rear with leaf springs so the pics are still with the 60 rear and SOA i like ford 9 inches better so thats why the 60 is comming out and the 9 is going in..here is some pics enjoy..

this is right when i pulled it out..
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Interior still pretty cherry..
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Cleaning up pretty good
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Parked for now till i get my brake lines in from 4 wheel parts..9" going in soon!
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so after much thought i am going to run an IFS toyota steering box so in the future i can run hydro..anyone running these boxes wanna put in some input?
 






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ok so the SAS is officially underway! here are some pics

Dana 60 is out

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Ready for the swap

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9" is in.. here is new width..the tires that are on in the rear are 33x12.5's..im gunna run 35x12.5's

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Front is jacked up to match the rear.

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I did cut out a majority of the IFS..I will update soon.

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Good bye IFS :)

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Getting the axle mocked up..

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glad to hear you are ditching the 44. i ran one for a few years and it really limits how you can drive and tire size.

that looks tall. run 42z with that lift and cut the fenders.

good work. keep posting progress.
 






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