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Seriously I can get plugs & coils out with fuel rail in way?

guy48065

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I'm getting constant misfire codes. 102,000 miles so it's time to replace my plugs and I'm doing the coils at the same time. Been reading here the that the plugs can be removed without moving the fuel rail. This isn't how it looks. .. are the coils really flexible enough to bend them to the side to lift out?


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Yes. Unless the fuel rail design on the 02 is different than my 04. Came out no issue. Used 1/4 inch drive tools, swivel on coil bolts.
 






Absolutly. The black plastic brick on top isnt flexible, but the boot that goes betwween the coil and the plug you can bend in half. Plenty of room. 1/4 drive sockets for remmoving the coils, and a flexible spark plug socket helps some. Good luck!! It's not a hard job on the 4.6
 






Awesome. I just needed a little encouragement while I wait for the parts to arrive-- thanks!
 






Make sure the heads are cold before removing the plugs. Let it sit over night for example.

After removing the coils, use compressed air to blow out the holes (this is a must.) Use a small flat head or pick to break loose debris and vacuum it away. These engines are magnets for dust and grit on the top of the engine. With the plugs out, you may want to use a crevis tool to vacuum any debris that may have fallen in the combustion chamber.

Don't hand tighten the the new plugs, use a torque wrench and do it right, these plugs don't require too much torque, doing by hand could damage the threads. Also don't put anti seize on the new plugs. Most new plugs have silver colored threads, they have a built in anti seize. Black threads on plugs don't.
 






the COPs are easy to replace that I replaced #4 on oreilly's parking with just a socket wrench borrowed from the store. I don't want to drive home with it misfiring.

the plugs needs to be removed/replaced with the engine cold, so it's another scenario.
 






What's the most-recommended plugs?
 






Lol - you'll get a million opinions.

Copper fires best, but you'll have to change every 20k. Stay away from ALL gimmic plugs like Bosch +4 etc.

I ended up going with Autolite Iridiums XP104.
I would have used a Champion plug 9204, but they were out of stock. (After seeing tests of different plugs, I became a Champion fan.)

NGK would be fine, just get a double platinum at the minimum.

I'm not a fan of Motorcraft.
 






true that, I'd say what plugs to stay away from "Bosch" and other that claims multiple sparks and improve fuel economy.

Can't go wrong with OEM (motorcraft) since it's inexpensive. My COPs started misfiring after 140k but I have replaced the plugs at 100k with Motorcraft, that ends up only the COPs as the culprit.
Autolite is the same company that made motorcraft plugs. Some lincoln uses NGK as the OEM plug instead of motorcraft (my 2002 ls is motorcraft, 2003- up uses NGK)
Champion is mostly used by Jeep owners, they are also good but I noticed that the service interval is too frequent (change every 30k)
Denso's are mainly for japanese imports won't recommend that.
 






Lol - you'll get a million opinions.

Copper fires best, but you'll have to change every 20k. Stay away from ALL gimmic plugs like Bosch +4 etc.

I ended up going with Autolite Iridiums XP104.
I would have used a Champion plug 9204, but they were out of stock. (After seeing tests of different plugs, I became a Champion fan.)

NGK would be fine, just get a double platinum at the minimum.

I'm not a fan of Motorcraft.

You realize that the autolite plugs = the motorcraft plugs, right? Made on the same assembly line...
 






You realize that the autolite plugs = the motorcraft plugs, right? Made on the same assembly line...

Motorcraft parts are all sourced. So at any given time, they may come from a manufacturer that produces another line.
Motorcraft and Autolite are not the same product. Though Ford did own Autolite at one time, they don't now.
If you purchase an Autolite plug and compare it to a Motorcraft plug, they will not be the same.

Even if a product for....say.....Autozone, comes from the same plant as for NAPA, that doesn't mean they are the same quality. Each seller will have specific request for their product. In my example of parts stores, Autozone sells "discounted parts" (from their own signage.). They sell at a lower price because the product cost less to make than that of NAPA's. Which means there is a quality difference.

For my 1994 4.0 and probably my 2005 4.0, Ford used to sell a different set of plugs depending on what bank it was for. The difference? Is that the waste spark bank had the platinum on the ground electrode and the positive fire side had the platinum on the center electrode. (Reversed? Don't know but you get the point.)
Going to a parts store and getting the Autolites, you either get a single or double platinum, but you won't find an Autolite with only a ground electrode platinum.

Sorry, not meant to be a rant.

Edit: always willing to stand corrected. Just don't ask me to smile about it.
 






Motorcraft parts are all sourced. So at any given time, they may come from a manufacturer that produces another line.
Motorcraft and Autolite are not the same product. Though Ford did own Autolite at one time, they don't now.
If you purchase an Autolite plug and compare it to a Motorcraft plug, they will not be the same.

Even if a product for....say.....Autozone, comes from the same plant as for NAPA, that doesn't mean they are the same quality. Each seller will have specific request for their product. In my example of parts stores, Autozone sells "discounted parts" (from their own signage.). They sell at a lower price because the product cost less to make than that of NAPA's. Which means there is a quality difference.

For my 1994 4.0 and probably my 2005 4.0, Ford used to sell a different set of plugs depending on what bank it was for. The difference? Is that the waste spark bank had the platinum on the ground electrode and the positive fire side had the platinum on the center electrode. (Reversed? Don't know but you get the point.)
Going to a parts store and getting the Autolites, you either get a single or double platinum, but you won't find an Autolite with only a ground electrode platinum.

Sorry, not meant to be a rant.

Edit: always willing to stand corrected. Just don't ask me to smile about it.

Your info may have been fresher than mine....last I knew the motorcraft and autolites were the same..but that was ~4-5 years ago...


I do have to credit the motorcrafts though. When I got my 02 XLT in Oct 2013, I did all the back maintenance. Pulled out the motorcrafts which were working fine....two of them were cracked and falling apart, but you'd never know by driving it.
 






:):thumbsup:
 






Well it got above 20*F today so I launched into replacing my plugs and coils (champion 9204 and MSD).
The job went fairly smooth... though some of the plugs felt like they were glued in. No galling on the threads -- just baked on crud. Plugs were Motorcraft platinums and looked pretty good with no sign of problems.
I spread a dab of anti - seize on the plug threads so if I keep this truck long enough they will come out easier next time.
I also cleaned the throttle body while I was in there.

I need more time to be sure but it now idles smooth, accelerates smooth, and doesn't throw codes. It's great to hear and feel it idle like brand new!
 






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