Solved Swap in platinum speedo / cluster??

[peterk9]

I just looked and I couldn't find it. Maybe I didn't search correctly?

I also checked and there were none.

 

[dannysierrasr]

No, and it can't be done with Ford IDS either since it only let's you flash the firmware for that model. The programming takes about 20 minutes and requires UCDS(UCDS – Universal CAN Diagnostic System | Official site Universal CAN Diagnostic System) and the hardware (about $300) - If you're near Southern California, I can help you with it.

did you ever or have you yet done the cluster change spoken about on this thread??
i have a 15 Explorer Sport and bought a 16 Platinum cluster and like mentioned here it plugs right in BUT my truck wont even crank when its plugged in but when i unplug the harness it turns on perfect, even with no cluster connected.

 

[jmr061]

did you ever or have you yet done the cluster change spoken about on this thread??
i have a 15 Explorer Sport and bought a 16 Platinum cluster and like mentioned here it plugs right in BUT my truck wont even crank when its plugged in but when i unplug the harness it turns on perfect, even with no cluster connected.

The 16+ clusters do not work in 11-15 Explorers.

 

[peterk9]

did you ever or have you yet done the cluster change spoken about on this thread??
i have a 15 Explorer Sport and bought a 16 Platinum cluster and like mentioned here it plugs right in BUT my truck wont even crank when its plugged in but when i unplug the harness it turns on perfect, even with no cluster connected.

Welcome to the Forum Danny.
I think Jason (jmr061) provided the reason why you are having issues with the '16 cluster.

Peter

 

[Capt-O]

I don't have the photos right off hand but basically trim a small piece of a cross brace where the cluster bolts into the dashboard. The area needs to be trimmed about maybe 1/8 1/4" at the most what this does is sets the bottom of the cluster further against the dashboard so that the instrument cluster bezel will fit. Without trimming those two little corners the Bezel/steering column dust cover WILL NOT fit flush against and inside the dashboard lip.

I know its many months later but does anybody have pictures of this process ? I don't want to trim more then I have to.

 

[dannysierrasr]

Yes it can be done but not sure if I would recommend it though. With that said let me explain.

The physical fitment of the cluster itself is fine, do yourself a favor invest in a magnetic screwdriver/nut driver. Also visit dealer and purchase at least four extra panel retaining nuts. You might not need them but when you do it will be 5m on a Sunday after dealer parts department has closed. A one off fit that most likely won't be available at parts stores or Lowe's Home depot.....ASK ME HOW I Know!!

The Bezel is much easier than I was expecting to remove, simply move the steering wheel FULL AFT as in towards the drivers seat and FULL DOWN. Grab a panel removal tool on one corner and slowly work around. PAY Attention, the white retaining clips are needed and need to be kept in. They are held in place by a piece of thin tape. Remove the retaining clips firmly cut carefully. When they are removed, there is a small set of retaining clips for the dust hood. About 4-6 clips start at the corner....SLOWLY/CAREFULLY and slide old bezel out. You might be able to use original bezel but no guarantees, I got mine (Cluster) to fit during test fit but I am thinking that I did not factor in the Bezel.

Also unless you have a local vendor that can re program on the spot I recommend programming to a FUTURE Mileage. If the cluster comes back sooner than that mileage just wait and install. If you install too early you are affecting the warranty as in showing the vehicle with more miles than actual. This will keep you out of trouble with the DMV. The section on the odometer statement will still have to be filled out for the (NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE) section but I would think that +/- a mile or two would not be a major deal. Another recommendation is to take video or photo of install showing mileage before and after removal. That will be a reference in the event you do get accused of odometer tampering.

There are four retaining nuts two upper, and two lower. The two lower ones can be the problem. Without either a magnetic nut driver or some sort of adhesive on the nut head THEY WILL FALL. And again 5:00 Saturday afternoon and not just fall but fall deeply into one of the many voids of the steering column. I eventually recovered them but after installation.
With my platinum cluster there is about a 1/2 gap in the Bezel I tried reinstalling the normal Bezel and no luck.
The electrical connection is the same as non Platinum. One minor note. The FORSCAN shows the vehicle as a non platinum. Anything FORSCAN related you want to do to the cluster, forget it. My case for example I wanted to add the Ice Warning. I made the Changes per the platinum instrument cluster through FORSCAN but FORSCAN recognized the ECU as a NON Platinum and would not accept the new codes for the warning

The Platinum cluster still shows the same information as NON Platinum models, the layout is different but information is the same.

Hello,
I have a 2015 Explorer and I bought the Plat cluster. i saw the harness is the same and i had it programmed to the correct miles. I never tested it before I sent it out. I took the old cluster out and installed the new FULL DIGITAL my truck doesnt start. if i unplug it then it starts right up. So with the original and without a cluster everything works but with the new new 1 installed its dead! i spent over $600 for the cluster and mile correction im stumped. Can you pls help me with this?
Thanking you in advance
Danny

 

[Capt-O]

Hello,
I have a 2015 Explorer and I bought the Plat cluster. i saw the harness is the same and i had it programmed to the correct miles. I never tested it before I sent it out. I took the old cluster out and installed the new FULL DIGITAL my truck doesnt start. if i unplug it then it starts right up. So with the original and without a cluster everything works but with the new new 1 installed its dead! i spent over $600 for the cluster and mile correction im stumped. Can you pls help me with this?
Thanking you in advance
Danny

What year cluster? 2015 is different from 16-19

 

[jmr061]

Hello,
I have a 2015 Explorer and I bought the Plat cluster. i saw the harness is the same and i had it programmed to the correct miles. I never tested it before I sent it out. I took the old cluster out and installed the new FULL DIGITAL my truck doesnt start. if i unplug it then it starts right up. So with the original and without a cluster everything works but with the new new 1 installed its dead! i spent over $600 for the cluster and mile correction im stumped. Can you pls help me with this?
Thanking you in advance
Danny

The platinum cluster only works in the 16-19. It will not work in an 11-15. You were told this back in February.

 

[PlatinumOwner]

Hello,
I have a 2015 Explorer and I bought the Plat cluster. i saw the harness is the same and i had it programmed to the correct miles. I never tested it before I sent it out. I took the old cluster out and installed the new FULL DIGITAL my truck doesnt start. if i unplug it then it starts right up. So with the original and without a cluster everything works but with the new new 1 installed its dead! i spent over $600 for the cluster and mile correction im stumped. Can you pls help me with this?
Thanking you in advance
Danny

It's not compatible with the electrical architecture in 2011-2015 models. Only 2016-2019.

 

[ecoboost_xsport]

Hello,
I have a 2015 Explorer and I bought the Plat cluster. i saw the harness is the same and i had it programmed to the correct miles. I never tested it before I sent it out. I took the old cluster out and installed the new FULL DIGITAL my truck doesnt start. if i unplug it then it starts right up. So with the original and without a cluster everything works but with the new new 1 installed its dead! i spent over $600 for the cluster and mile correction im stumped. Can you pls help me with this?
Thanking you in advance
Danny

This has been thoroughly addressed in this thread for quite some time now. The CANbus system changed in 2016 to a different architecture (essentially..."language"). No currently known way to make it work.

 

[FL_Not_A_Cop]

Even better the gauge coaster is too deep to fit in a XLT, sport, or even the limited, it is about a quarter inch gap and it will not let you put the trim ring back down. The gauge itself won’t even bolt down because it hits something behind the gauges.

 

[rlopez28]

thank you Stephen, issue was solved by loading my As Built data into the new platinum cluster, all works fine now, thank you

Hi Sergio, just did the exact same swap myself. Where did you change this setting in the As-Built data? I've looked up and down the forums on this and cant seem to find anything on it. Thanks

 

[rlopez28]

Hi Sergio, just did the exact same swap myself. Where did you change this setting in the As-Built data? I've looked up and down the forums on this and cant seem to find anything on it. Thanks

Nevermind. I got it working and it is BEAUTIFUL to look at! I I had to go from 2.3.49 BACK to 2.3.35 and found SO MANY more modules that the updated version wasnt seeing including my IPC. AND I was able to update my mileage.
Only thing left to do is the cutting that Stephen referred to in an earlier post and maybe play around with some of the settings a little more to kill some of the warnings I am still getting but other than that BEAUTIFUL!

 

[peterk9]

Hi Sergio, just did the exact same swap myself. Where did you change this setting in the As-Built data? I've looked up and down the forums on this and cant seem to find anything on it. Thanks

Welcome to the Forum.
I'm going out on a limb here and guess that swap wasn't in your 2008 EB.

Peter

 

[rlopez28]

Welcome to the Forum.
I'm going out on a limb here and guess that swap wasn't in your 2008 EB.

Peter

No, I reluctantly traded that one in for the 2016 and I miss it every moment. 208k miles with original transmission and engine, really missing the RWD and working on getting used to the FWD, but loving the customization that Forscan has to offer.

 

[cshick909]

Hey all! Resurrecting an old thread here. I'm currently doing a 2019 Platinum IPC swap in my 2017 Base. I'm trying to load my As Built data into the new IPC but I keep getting an error stating "Gain security access failed - security key is wrong"

Is this referring the MyKey?

I have my as built data saved and ready to load but I'm not having any luck yet.

Thanks!!!

 

[cshick909]

Hey all! Resurrecting an old thread here. I'm currently doing a 2019 Platinum IPC swap in my 2017 Base. I'm trying to load my As Built data into the new IPC but I keep getting an error stating "Gain security access failed - security key is wrong"

Is this referring the MyKey?

I have my as built data saved and ready to load but I'm not having any luck yet.

Thanks!!!

Ok! So I did some thinking on this. I'm assuming that maybe this error is due to the fact that I selected my previous profile in Forscan, which was my type 1 IPC. I'm assuming I need to delete that profile and have it configure a new one with what's currently connected and then flash my ABD into the new cluster?

Second question; since my system is currently using the SYNC 1 radio and the right side buttons of the wheel are not the 4 arrows and ok, will I need to change to an XLT or higher model steering wheel to gain control of the middle screen on the Platinum IPC?

Thanks for your help!!!

 

[mmorey79]

Ok! So I did some thinking on this. I'm assuming that maybe this error is due to the fact that I selected my previous profile in Forscan, which was my type 1 IPC. I'm assuming I need to delete that profile and have it configure a new one with what's currently connected and then flash my ABD into the new cluster?

Second question; since my system is currently using the SYNC 1 radio and the right side buttons of the wheel are not the 4 arrows and ok, will I need to change to an XLT or higher model steering wheel to gain control of the middle screen on the Platinum IPC?

Thanks for your help!!!

You definitely need to not load a profile after a hardware change so it will rescan the hardware, not sure if that will solve your issue but it's worth a shot. And I believe you are correct on #2.

 

[cshick909]

You definitely need to not load a profile after a hardware change so it will rescan the hardware, not sure if that will solve your issue but it's worth a shot. And I believe you are correct on #2.

Thanks! I did get it figured out! The error was due to the incorrect profile. After changing the cluster I was unable to change the center screen. Found an XLT/Sport leather wheel with the correct right hand controls and was able to load the as built info from a platinum onto the steering wheel control module.

Works great!

 

[Romaher]

Hello good afternoon, does anyone know how to upgrade or change the cluster on a 2016 explorer sport for a newer or updated version one that handles all the original functions, like a digital LCD one, and where it can be obtained.