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Tellico run for 2003?

Gerald,
I'll probably have my g/f with me. We'd be happy to ride with you, but would like to use Splat for at least a good portion of the trip. IMO no use driving all over the place just to ride.

BTW, she's not Becca and Michael, Randall, and Kris all approve ;)
 



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Whoa, splat on gaurdrail!!!:eek: :eek: That would be insane.:eek:
 






Yall can include me (as long as I get off from work). How far from richmond va, 5-6hrs?

Thanks
Chris
 






Originally posted by EXPLODER-1
Donkeyboy,
Can you post the link with the map of the trails from the jeep board? I have it on paper, but cannot remember the link.
Thanks, David
Sorry David and thanks Gerald. I was not checking this forum over the weekend.

Just looked at my schedule for this year; looks like earliest date available for me for a big run with some spare time for repairs afterwards would be :eek: August. I'm not kidding :(
 






You know it's a harrowing experience when you have to schedule repair time at the end of the run. :eek:
 






Originally posted by Alec
Gerald,
I'll probably have my g/f with me. We'd be happy to ride with you, but would like to use Splat for at least a good portion of the trip. IMO no use driving all over the place just to ride.

BTW, she's not Becca and Michael, Randall, and Kris all approve ;)

Well then you all need to find me a good Texan woman too :D

Alec, I don't want to come off as harda$$, but IMO you wouldn't have much to do at Tellico and yes you are right; that's a long way to come just to ride along.

The only run you could do at Tellico unassisted is Trail 3, assuming you could survive on Trail 4 long enough to get to 3. You probably could fall down trail 6 :D but there's no way you could go up it. If it is completely and totally dry, you have enough lift to traverse 8, which is easy after a few minor ledges on the north side of the loop. But I've only seen it completely dry one day (even during dry weather there is always runoff from the mountain crossing the trails and there are several creek crossings throughout).

Trail 3 is one trail (not a loop) so you could go out it and come back and be finished in half a day and then have nothing else to do for the rest of the weekend. In an absolute best case scenario during rare totally dry conditions, you could go up trail 4 with a few strap assistances and "fall" down trail 6 :D, but it would at least double the time required to finish for the rest of the group. If it is wet, you wouldn't even make it 20 yards: I am not sure if you could even get up the entrance to Trail 4 without a strap and then you would require the strap dozens of times.

The "easiest" trails at Tellico (in order, from easiest to harder) are 3, then 4, down 6 and up 8 .

I personally wouldn't mind taking you in since I am kinda curious as to how you would fare, and you've now got enough clearance that your underside wouldn't get destroyed. But there is one major consideration we need to remember regardless of how I feel. Trail 4 is the key trail and gets you to most of the other trails in the area. As such, it is a sort of "highway" and always busy. There are few places to pull over to let vehicles by since the trails are cut into mountainsides and are very narrow. Being pulled through Trail 4 will quickly result in a pileup of better built rigs traffic-jammed on your rear bumper and would make you a very unpopular fellow to a lot of very mad rednecks in a very big hurry.

To put the difficulty in perspective from your experience, Trail 4 is comparable (but tougher) to taking the clockwise loop at Top of the World in Moab, except it is mud covered in slimy wet leaves and stuff. So up the ante in your imagination and make the ledges and obstacles a little harder on that Clockwise section at Top of the World, insert a couple of much tougher obstacles (such as a thigh-high ledge at Fain's Ford that must be climbed out of a river with wet tires), extend it to a few miles long, and then cover it all with mud and wet leaves. Welcome to Tellico.

95%+ of all vehicles at Tellico have at least 35" tires and a locker, over 90% have winches, over 50% of them sport 40"+ Swampers with both axles locked, and everyone who has wheeled there for more than a day has body damage of some sort (most are bashed to hell). It is no place for a 2wd.

You can check the Virginia run threads about GWNF and another group of us are checking out a place or two in Georgia next month that you could probably join on, but not Tellico. Perhaps we can schedule a GWNF or Georgia run for you to join in this summer. It would be great to see you out here this summer and we'll be checking out a lot of places besides Tellico to run at.
 






Um, Okie Dokie.......

I'll go crawl into my hole now :(

I totally see what you're saying Gerald. Tellico is really slick and you need as much traction as you can get to survive. I don't want to spin my tires and end up sliding into a tree. My 33s did make a huge difference out at the Slabs last year, but I still got stuck a few times, and wet leaves can be worse.

If you're ever trying to get a feel for how Splat would do, just think of yourself on your old 33s if you could have 2-lo.
 






A thought...

The one way to possibly give it a try would be to do it in midweek so there wouldn't be any traffic on 4, and watch the weather in Murphy NC, wait for dry conditions when there hasn't been any precip for a couple of weeks, hope the forecast for further dry conditions is accurate, and hightail it out here for a midweek run.

Like I said, I'm kinda curious to see what would happen (dry, you'd probably do fine going up 4, down 6, and play on 8 and 3). If you could pull this off I'd like to try to do it, but we'd both have to have flexible schedules since obviously we'd have to plan by weather forecast and that doesn't allow for much lead time.
 






Well if I decide on this trip I'll probably have a leeway of 2-3 days either way. I agree it would be better to run it during the week. Dunno when I'll have a decision on what part of the country to drive to though.

Also remember, I did TOW clockwise with 31s, crappy gearing, crappy tranny, and mis-tuned motor. Now I have 33s, 4.30s, and a great tranny and motor.
 






I'm not concerned about your setup at all; I know you've built a great rig.

Traction is the issue. If it ends up being wet, I have little desire to get caught holding up a bunch of drunken armed rednecks driving beat-to-hell fullsizes on 48" swampers while we block the trail strapping a 2wd. :D Nothing personal, just a fact of life out here.
 






Originally posted by Alec
Um, Okie Dokie.......

I'll go crawl into my hole now :(

Poor Alec, shot down twice in one week. You 4x4 guys are mean. ;) :D

Seriously though Alec, while the gearing and bigger tires make a difference in mild terrain you are going to find that there are not many places that you can successfully take a 2wd truck off road especially on tougher trails. Hell if you lived around here you would have to ride along every time. Might be time to start thinking about a solid axle swap.
 






Well if the conversion/SAS happens it isn't gonna be for at least 3-4 years. If Splat lasts that long, I'll get another DD then.

Though I've also been thinking: With 3" lift spindles in front and shackles in the rear I'd be able to easily run 35s. Add a body lift and I'd be able to run 37s :) Maybe an underdrive unit for 2wd low range? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................

But I guess even with those tires, gearing, and lift, 2wd is still 2wd.
 






Like I said in the previous post, nothing personal. Just trying to avoid any possibility of a potential conflict with those aforementioned "bunch of drunken armed rednecks driving beat-to-hell fullsizes on 48 inch swampers" :D
 






Has anyone been to Uwharie, NC.? Of what I heard it's not as hard as Tellico but way better than GWNF!
 






Gerald, does that mean that you can make it and be our Go-to-guy on finding the trails:cool:? It sounds like a lot of people are interested. However, when it all comes together it will probly be a lot less people there than expected
;)
We'll just have to see how it plays out as it gets closer to the run on May2-4..:redexp:
 






Originally posted by EXPLODER-1
You know it's a harrowing experience when you have to schedule repair time at the end of the run. :eek:

Hehe... i'll make sure i'm locked and regeared by that run!
 






Michael, I'd love to look at Uwharrie (sp?) anytime. I've heard the same thing but have never been there.

rocklaurence, yeah, I'll make it, but I would like to suggest any other weekend besides May 2-4th. Southern 4wd Association (SFWDA) is having their annual run at Windrock in TN that weekend and it looks like a blast. I wouldn't want to conflict with that and I personally would like to go to Windrock that weekend instead of Tellico. It would also be nice to see some other Explorers show up for Windrock too :) http://www.sfwda.org/dixierun/

We scared a lot of stockers off last year after going to Tellico and finding out how brutal it really is. But I believe that if we can take our time on a weekend that isn't too busy that we can prove how well Explorers do. I agree that fewer stockers will probably show up when the chips are down and we really schedule the run, but I'd be more than willing to forego hard trails to lead stockers at Tellico for the ride of their life. For certain they can run 4, 3, and up 8, and maybe fall down 6 :roll: -- but no whining allowed if your paintjob gets a little trail pinstriping or you bash the helloutta your skidplates :D
 






Originally posted by GJarrett
but no whining allowed if your paintjob gets a little trail pinstriping or you bash the helloutta your skidplates :D

Whining? Isn;t that the whole I idea of wheeling... to scratch and bash up your ride so it looks more badass?
 






Originally posted by donkey boy
Has anyone been to Uwharie, NC.? Of what I heard it's not as hard as Tellico but way better than GWNF!
I Have :D

It's a perfect intermediate wheeling spot. More challenging than GWNF by far, but not as dangerous as Tellico.
 



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Originally posted by Jason_25
I Have :D

It's a perfect intermediate wheeling spot. More challenging than GWNF by far, but not as dangerous as Tellico.

Now then :D let's plan a trip to there lateron this year :cool: I know they don't open before March 1st. I will make a seperate thread to check interest.
 






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