Welcome to the Forum Tony.Hey ppl. Sorry I didn't introduce myself in in intro thread. But this is my first post here. noticed that threads are being moved from Tires section to places with more activity.
Anyhow, I have a 2013 XLT with just less than 29K on it. Time for some tires. Didn't know they wear out that quick, but they are 255/50/R20. Trying to save some money here. Is it possible to put 60 or 70 series on this? Friggin 50 series are bank. I know it will make the OD of the tire larger, but there is some room. LMK if any of you have tried this. thanks in advance.
For what it's worth, I've had the original Hankooks (terrible in rain and snow); the Bridgestone Alenza Plus's (had weird harmonics that caused them to hum at speed); the Michelin Premier LTX - quiet tire, but provided too much feedback in the steering wheel - felt like a snow tire. I finally landed on the Bridgestone Dueler Ecopia PLUS. I used size 265/50/20 on the Sport rim. Note that these tires were used on a 2011 Limited and then the 2014 Sport I'm in now.
The Ecopia PLUS's were just released. So far, after 1,500 miles, they are smooth, quiet and good in the rain. I use Blizzak's in the snow, so I'm not concerned with that; though, I did get suck in a storm recently and they performed acceptably given they are an all season tire.
My biggest disappointment was the Michelin Premier LTX. Stock, new, they came with 9/32nd's of tread. The others' came with 12/32nd's. When I removed them at my 30 day trial, I had put 4,000 miles on them. At that point, 1/32nd of tread was already gone. Think about that - if you replace at 4/32nd's, which you should, it's a 20,000 tire that was rated for at least 60k. What drove me to pull them off was the buzzing you felt in the steering wheel. It wasn't vibration; rather, it was the tread transmitting back up to the steering wheel. Felt just like a snow tire. I can tolerate that in the winter; however, during the summer? No thanks.
The Ecopia PLUS's look nice in the wider size and are much smoother than the Michelin tire.
First fillup and more City(90%) MPG's got same MPG's as last tank. 20 mpg'sGot Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia P255/50R20 tires installed at FORD yesterday and they seem simular to the Hankook tires for ride and noise, probably quieter. It will take a while to figure out gas mileage.
My tires have about the same wear (actually a bit worse), but at 14K miles. I'm not happy with these tires.I just wanted to post a pic of my factory Hankook tires after about 52k miles. Man, these things are wearing slow. Not sure how well it can be seen in the picture, but the wear bars are are about 1/2 the tread depth. This is the worst, just moved from the front to the rear. Rears had even more tread. If they are still decent, I might run them through next winter and following summer ( 2018). We'll see.
I should state that the first 40k miles were probably 90% highway. Probably more like 50/50 now, but also drive about 5k fewer miles per year(down to 15k/year) now that we move to a new house.
Peter, here is tire rack survey results. Reviewed all their tests also. Seemed the best compromise for me. Time will tell.http://www.1010tires.com/Tires/Pirelli/Scorpion+Verde+All+Season+Plus
Very good ratings with a couple 5 out of 5. Snow performance received the lowest at 3.7
BTW, the Hankooks are a passenger car tire.
Have you tried pricing them through your dealer. Their slogan is that they won't be undersold on tires, Costco excepted. I have two sets of wheels/tires and I always have te dealer store the ones that aren't being used. I believe they charge $35 but I wasn't charged the last time.Good info here. I need tires ASAP for my 2013 Explorer XLT FWD, I think I'm going with the Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S Plus.
Tirerack.com has them at 159.55/tire, I'll see if my local Town Fair Tire here in CT will price match that price.
Separate winter tires are not an option for me as I do not have a garage for storage, unfortunately.
I have a Town Fair Tire card with 0% financing for 12 months, so I'm taking advantage of that. For the 4 tires, with alignment, they're charging me $866 out the door.Have you tried pricing them through your dealer. Their slogan is that they won't be undersold on tires, Costco excepted. I have two sets of wheels/tires and I always have te dealer store the ones that aren't being used. I believe they charge $35 but I wasn't charged the last time.
The difference between the regular AS and the AS+ is "eco friendliness". The plus is made with less material, thus lighter. Lower reciprocating mass means better mileage, in theory. They say 6%. Only time will tell. Also, because of lower rolling resistance, the treadlife is longer. Again, very new so we'll have to wait and see. I can say that they're "ULTRA QUIET" which does lend itself to lower rolling resistance and longer tread life.The tread pattern seems to be the same. The only difference I've been able to see on the Pirelli site is that the non Plus tire has the wording All Season below Verde. The Plus tire does not. The All Season is shown on an separate band of the tire.
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