cold start

baphomet666 · January 24, 2011

Hello everyone,

:scratch: I noticed when it's very cold (last night we -10 ° for some of you this is nothing).

impossible morning as the truck starts.

I am forced to unplug the cable from the batery... and then back after 10 minutes i plug the cable and the truck starts

if you could give me some assistance please thank you very much
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kona_mtb · January 24, 2011

I'm sorry its really hard to understand your post?? Does it not start then after plugging in the block heater it starts?

baphomet666 · January 25, 2011

kona_mtb said:
I'm sorry its really hard to understand your post?? Does it not start then after plugging in the block heater it starts?

I wrote again my message more clearly
I'm really sorry, I work with the Google translator is very hard it seems :scratch:

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FIND · January 25, 2011

do you have a block heater?

baphomet666 · January 25, 2011

FIND said:
do you have a block heater?

No block heater

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FIND · January 25, 2011

Does the engine turn over very slowly, or does it just not start?

If the engine is turning over very slowly:

Opening your hood and just having the sunlight on everything could warm things up enough to get you going. -10 (Celsius I assume) isn't that cold that you should have any trouble starting, but you might. -10 Fahrenheit, (-23 celsius) I could definitely see you having trouble starting on any battery that isn't really new without a block heater.

If you are talking about -10 celsius, I'd recommend you have your battery tested. If it is good, your solution is probably a block heater.

If the truck just doesn't start:

Test your starter and fuel pump relays. Also test your ignition coil. Test to see if anything is drawing power from your battery with the truck off.

I hope you can understand all this, I will try and translate to french later if you are having trouble.

baphomet666 · January 25, 2011

FIND said:
Does the engine turn over very slowly, or does it just not start?

If the engine is turning over very slowly:

Opening your hood and just having the sunlight on everything could warm things up enough to get you going. -10 (Celsius I assume) isn't that cold that you should have any trouble starting, but you might. -10 Fahrenheit, (-23 celsius) I could definitely see you having trouble starting on any battery that isn't really new without a block heater.

If you are talking about -10 celsius, I'd recommend you have your battery tested. If it is good, your solution is probably a block heater.

If the truck just doesn't start:

Test your starter and fuel pump relays. Also test your ignition coil. Test to see if anything is drawing power from your battery with the truck off.

I hope you can understand all this, I will try and translate to french later if you are having trouble.

Thank you very much SIR FIND i understand your explanation.
i do that and will keep you informed.
Thank you very much

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FIND · January 25, 2011

One last thing I forgot to add. It could also be a sign of your starter motor wearing out.

kert0307 · January 25, 2011

You shouldn't have a problem in -10 deg C. My explorer starts in -20 deg F no block heater, ethanol blended fuel, and a 5 year old optima red top battery.

I would definitely check the battery (load test) and that the battery terminals are clean. If that doesn't solve it check the wiring and starter.

FIND · January 25, 2011

kert0307 said:
You shouldn't have a problem in -10 deg C. My explorer starts in -20 deg F no block heater, ethanol blended fuel, and a 5 year old optima red top battery.

I would definitely check the battery (load test) and that the battery terminals are clean. If that doesn't solve it check the wiring and starter.

fwiw, my ex-wifes explorer has trouble starting at -10 with a 1 year old interstate battery and non blended fuel. It had an optima in it that was around 7 years old, and it would pop right off at that temperature.... IMO, optimas are just damn good batteries in the cold.

baphomet666 · January 25, 2011

Here at home we do not usually from -10 this is very rare .
I did the cleaning and verification of the battery cables everything is ok.

I also weighed the water in each compartment of the battery it's ok too.

I check the fuel filter it's ok. and gasoline arrives well after the hose when I turn the ignition key

this is surprising. I turn the key .the engine turn but will not start.

I let the truck 5 minutes. I put the contact and it starts the engine without problem :dunno:

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baphomet666 · January 25, 2011

FIND said:
do you have a block heater?

:scratch: I return to this question I said no.
may be a little too fast
or is this block heater if there is one on my truck?? and what it looks like

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FIND · January 25, 2011

A block heater replaces one of the freeze plugs on the passenger side of your block. It has an electrical cord coming out of it to plug into your house to warm the engine.

Your problem does not sound block heater related.... Maybe sticky or clogged fuel injectors or your ignition coil is going bad....

baphomet666 · January 25, 2011

FIND said:
A block heater replaces one of the freeze plugs on the passenger side of your block. It has an electrical cord coming out of it to plug into your house to warm the engine.

Your problem does not sound block heater related.... Maybe sticky or clogged fuel injectors or your ignition coil is going bad....

The injectors are brand new, I will look into the ignition coil
But tomorrow morning because it is 3:27 AM

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Brian T Nickless · February 3, 2011

En Francais ?

Salut, Baphomet666, Si vous voulez, posez les questions en francais. Je suis Canadien Anglophone mias je parle francais, allemand et espagnol. Ca peut prendre 1 ou 2 jours pour avoir une reponse. Bonne chance ! Brian

baphomet666 · February 3, 2011

Brian T Nickless said:
Salut, Baphomet666, Si vous voulez, posez les questions en francais. Je suis Canadien Anglophone mias je parle francais, allemand et espagnol. Ca peut prendre 1 ou 2 jours pour avoir une reponse. Bonne chance ! Brian

Merci monsieur,

J'ai remarqué que quand il fait très froid (la nuit dernière, nous avons -10 ° pour certains d'entre vous ce n'est rien).

ce matin, impossible de faire démarrer le camion

Je suis obligé de débrancher le câble de la baterie ... et puis de nouveau après 10 minutes je branche le câble et le camion la il démarre

j'ai remarqué une chose ceci à commencé depuis le montage de mon KKM

Merci beaucoup Brian T Nickless :salute:

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Brian T Nickless · February 3, 2011

Au premiere essai, est-ce que la moteur tourne ? Rapidement ou lentement ? Parait-il que la moteur essaie de demarrer ou tourne simplement ? Avez-vous essayer de le demarrer au deuxieme essai ( sans debrancher la batterie ) ? Avez-vous essayer encore tout de suite, sans attendre ? Tourne-t-il encore sans demarrer ? Il y a combien d'annees avez-vous acheter la batterie ?
( Excusez s'il vous plait les erreurs. Ca fait 20 ans depuis que je 'parle' Francais

BN

jewlz · February 3, 2011

Salut tout le monde, un autre canadien anglais ici,
J’ai eu un problème similaire il y a quelques jours.
Il faisait -9ºC dans le matin, et quand essayait de démarrer mon explorer, le moteur tournait, d’une vitesse normale, (environ 1500 RPM). Mais il n’a pas démarré. Il semblait qu’il ne recevait pas d’essence, alors j’ai poussé sur l’accélérateur jusqu’au planché, et après de plusieurs reprises, il a démarré, puis il a émet un son horrible.

-et ça c'est la mesure de mon français...

-Julian

jewlz · February 3, 2011

Hello All,
I recently had a similar problem, a few days ago.
It was -9ºC in the morning, and when i tried to start my truck, the engine cranked at a normal speed (more than 1500 RPM) but it didn't start. I tried a few times, and heard what sounded like it was trying to fire, but not getting fuel. I pushed the pedal all the way to the floor and cranked the motor, multiple times, and it finally started (at least 15 tries later, with about 3 seconds per try and 30 seconds between tries so i wouldnt burn out the starter). The noise it made after starting was a horrible whine that lasted a minute or so, then it just went away and the truck' been runing normal since... what could this be

-Julian

baphomet666 · February 4, 2011

Brian T Nickless said:
Au premiere essai, est-ce que la moteur tourne ? Rapidement ou lentement ? Parait-il que la moteur essaie de demarrer ou tourne simplement ? Avez-vous essayer de le demarrer au deuxieme essai ( sans debrancher la batterie ) ? Avez-vous essayer encore tout de suite, sans attendre ? Tourne-t-il encore sans demarrer ? Il y a combien d'annees avez-vous acheter la batterie ?
( Excusez s'il vous plait les erreurs. Ca fait 20 ans depuis que je 'parle' Francais BN

jewlz said:
Salut tout le monde, un autre canadien anglais ici,
J’ai eu un problème similaire il y a quelques jours.
Il faisait -9ºC dans le matin, et quand essayait de démarrer mon explorer, le moteur tournait, d’une vitesse normale, (environ 1500 RPM). Mais il n’a pas démarré. Il semblait qu’il ne recevait pas d’essence, alors j’ai poussé sur l’accélérateur jusqu’au planché, et après de plusieurs reprises, il a démarré, puis il a émet un son horrible.

-et ça c'est la mesure de mon français...

-Julian

Merci beaucoup, votre Français est trés correct.

Je mets le contact et essayye de démarrer mais rien.
je reviens 5 minutes aprés et la le camion démarre.
Maintenant depuis 2/3 jours voila comment je fait je mets le contacts j'attends 15/20 secondes et la miracle le moteur démarre du premier coup????je ne comprends pas ....... il n'y à pas de préchauffage sur les moteurs essence ou bien quelque chose que je ne sais pas????

merci pour vous deux

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