DeadAWD
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- Duvall, WA
- Year, Model & Trim Level
- '96 Ford Explorer XLT AWD
Hi all,
I've been reading through thousands of posts in the last few days. I now know a lot more than I did before. Thank you.
My Dad gave me his meticulously maintained 1996 Explorer 5.0 XLT AWD less than 2 weeks ago (which had 133k mi) and I proceeded to immediately begin to drive coast to coast (Delaware to Washington state). He had the truck looked over at two different shops, put on new tires, changed the oil with synthetic (which he always used) and at my request had the transmission fluid flushed. Both shops said that everything looked fine (and charged him).
I flew in from overseas 2 weeks ago and he picked me up from the airport. I drove home 3 hours from the airport. I started the truck and upon pulling out of the parking spot I heard a faint noise (rattling or clicking when the car rolled in gear). It sounded like it was coming from the front left of the truck.
Half the way through our drive (1500 miles ago) I decided that since the truck was so highly loaded in the back that I should add more tire pressure to the rears. After filling the back of the Explorer completely (but not the rear seat, as my dog needed a place to roam around) it looked like the front was only lightly loaded and the rears were bulging. I now realize that I might have exacerbated the transfer case problem.
About 350 miles out of Seattle we started hearing (and feeling) what I now realize is a shot AWD transfer case. I first thought it was the CV axle (wishful thinking). I should have known that the center console compartment was NOT a heated bread warmer. It melted our good European chocolate.
All this in retrospect, mind you.
We made it here but I don't have a car to drive around to find us a place to stay. The local shop gave me a $2000+ estimate. No way. I'll do it myself. And I don't want to do something only to have to re-do it in the future. I like doing things right the first time, so I'm not happy about putting in another AWD transfer case.
So now I'm considering my options. At first I thought I wanted to replace with a manual 4406 (it would be WAY stronger than the 4404, especially since I want to eventually tow with the vehicle). I like the strength and the functionality of the 4406. But then I was thinking that I wouldn't mind having an electronic transfer case so I didn't have to cut into the perfect body. And I doubt I'll use a 4LOW ever.
Ideally a TOD case would be great for me. 2wd or 4wd (in a AWD type of way).
So I have some questions, which I'll also post in the Modified forum.
Ideally, I'd like to have an electronic 4406 that would give me at least 2HI and some kind of 4wd, TOS or AWD equivalency. I'll rarely need a true locked-up 4wd but I'll take it if I can't get everything else. I won't be driving this vehicle seriously offroad.
Since it is a 1996 AWD I have the speedometer driven off the rear flange of the transfer case. And I want to maintain that. I WANT cruise control. I will be driving cross country again.
I know that I could get a 4406 manual shift from a 1997 F-150 that has that speedo gear. Going that route I'd need to cut off and relocate the secondary cat, buy the transfer case linkage, the different drive shafts and a special u-joint, and do some grinding, hammer banging and cutting. I could do all that, as I'm an experienced amateur mechanic (who also worked as a mechanic for a while). But . . .
QUESTION TIME:
But what I want to know is if there is a 4406 that would give me 2wd and TOD that can be used in a 1996 Explorer AWD maintaining the speedometer drive, and preferably electronically controlled (versus manually). Are there different types of electronically controlled 4406s? Or is there just one type of 4406 electronically controlled? E.g.: 4406 manual; 4406 electronic 2HI, 4HI, N, 4LO; 4406 electronic 2wd and TOD; etc.? And does anybody have part numbers?
Is there an electronic 4406 that has the speedometer gear in the rear flange for use in my 1996 or would I have to adapt that as someone on this forum has done? Then comes the issue of controlling the transfer case? I don't think my 1996 AWD has anything to control a 4406 transfer case. From reading posts it doesn't seem that my Powertrain controller would control the case. But I read about 2004-2006 external transfer case controllers (whatever that was called).
So, is there any way that I could fit an controlled transfer case that is electronically controlled to my original 1996 5.0liter automatic transmission AWD that currently uses no transfer case controller and has the speedometer drive coming off the rear flange of the transfer case?
Or is it just more worth it to install a manually controlled 4406 with the rear speedometer gear and cut up the perfect metal of the body.
Also, since there is this horrible banging noise when driving, I guess that changing the dark brown ATF in the transfer case will do nothing to cure it of its ails?
If I can located a cheap local 4404 I might just put it in just to get me mobile again (since I have no place to live and I can't even drive around to look at houses). What do I need to know about getting the top bolts that hold the transfer case to the transmission. They look impossible to get to.
Thanks,
Dave
I've been reading through thousands of posts in the last few days. I now know a lot more than I did before. Thank you.
My Dad gave me his meticulously maintained 1996 Explorer 5.0 XLT AWD less than 2 weeks ago (which had 133k mi) and I proceeded to immediately begin to drive coast to coast (Delaware to Washington state). He had the truck looked over at two different shops, put on new tires, changed the oil with synthetic (which he always used) and at my request had the transmission fluid flushed. Both shops said that everything looked fine (and charged him).
I flew in from overseas 2 weeks ago and he picked me up from the airport. I drove home 3 hours from the airport. I started the truck and upon pulling out of the parking spot I heard a faint noise (rattling or clicking when the car rolled in gear). It sounded like it was coming from the front left of the truck.
Half the way through our drive (1500 miles ago) I decided that since the truck was so highly loaded in the back that I should add more tire pressure to the rears. After filling the back of the Explorer completely (but not the rear seat, as my dog needed a place to roam around) it looked like the front was only lightly loaded and the rears were bulging. I now realize that I might have exacerbated the transfer case problem.
About 350 miles out of Seattle we started hearing (and feeling) what I now realize is a shot AWD transfer case. I first thought it was the CV axle (wishful thinking). I should have known that the center console compartment was NOT a heated bread warmer. It melted our good European chocolate.
All this in retrospect, mind you.
We made it here but I don't have a car to drive around to find us a place to stay. The local shop gave me a $2000+ estimate. No way. I'll do it myself. And I don't want to do something only to have to re-do it in the future. I like doing things right the first time, so I'm not happy about putting in another AWD transfer case.
So now I'm considering my options. At first I thought I wanted to replace with a manual 4406 (it would be WAY stronger than the 4404, especially since I want to eventually tow with the vehicle). I like the strength and the functionality of the 4406. But then I was thinking that I wouldn't mind having an electronic transfer case so I didn't have to cut into the perfect body. And I doubt I'll use a 4LOW ever.
Ideally a TOD case would be great for me. 2wd or 4wd (in a AWD type of way).
So I have some questions, which I'll also post in the Modified forum.
Ideally, I'd like to have an electronic 4406 that would give me at least 2HI and some kind of 4wd, TOS or AWD equivalency. I'll rarely need a true locked-up 4wd but I'll take it if I can't get everything else. I won't be driving this vehicle seriously offroad.
Since it is a 1996 AWD I have the speedometer driven off the rear flange of the transfer case. And I want to maintain that. I WANT cruise control. I will be driving cross country again.
I know that I could get a 4406 manual shift from a 1997 F-150 that has that speedo gear. Going that route I'd need to cut off and relocate the secondary cat, buy the transfer case linkage, the different drive shafts and a special u-joint, and do some grinding, hammer banging and cutting. I could do all that, as I'm an experienced amateur mechanic (who also worked as a mechanic for a while). But . . .
QUESTION TIME:
But what I want to know is if there is a 4406 that would give me 2wd and TOD that can be used in a 1996 Explorer AWD maintaining the speedometer drive, and preferably electronically controlled (versus manually). Are there different types of electronically controlled 4406s? Or is there just one type of 4406 electronically controlled? E.g.: 4406 manual; 4406 electronic 2HI, 4HI, N, 4LO; 4406 electronic 2wd and TOD; etc.? And does anybody have part numbers?
Is there an electronic 4406 that has the speedometer gear in the rear flange for use in my 1996 or would I have to adapt that as someone on this forum has done? Then comes the issue of controlling the transfer case? I don't think my 1996 AWD has anything to control a 4406 transfer case. From reading posts it doesn't seem that my Powertrain controller would control the case. But I read about 2004-2006 external transfer case controllers (whatever that was called).
So, is there any way that I could fit an controlled transfer case that is electronically controlled to my original 1996 5.0liter automatic transmission AWD that currently uses no transfer case controller and has the speedometer drive coming off the rear flange of the transfer case?
Or is it just more worth it to install a manually controlled 4406 with the rear speedometer gear and cut up the perfect metal of the body.
Also, since there is this horrible banging noise when driving, I guess that changing the dark brown ATF in the transfer case will do nothing to cure it of its ails?
If I can located a cheap local 4404 I might just put it in just to get me mobile again (since I have no place to live and I can't even drive around to look at houses). What do I need to know about getting the top bolts that hold the transfer case to the transmission. They look impossible to get to.
Thanks,
Dave