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Wheels: Offset, Backspacing, & Wheel Spacers

Offset and Backspacing

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When you bought your vehicle from the dealership, engineers have put long hard hours to calculate a wheel and tire combo that would work well with the vehicle. Calculating width, diameter, offset, rear spacing, offset, and much more. Most people think; "The bolt patterns are the same, let's bolt them up." That is where people finally find a problem. Some may fit, some may not, and some will look unsightly. Anyhow, those engineers designed a wheel that would distribute load evenly on the wheel bearings, clear the rotors and braking system parts, and also keep you from rubbing your frame or front bumper. So, well, how do you figure out which works best and what is what - just tell me what I need and move on; right? Well, hopefully this thread will clear up some issues on wheels and how important some aspects of wheels are.

Backspacing is the distance from the inside bolting surface of the rim to the outer edge of the inboard side of the rim. Offset is the distance from the exact center of the rim to the outer edges of the rim. Positive offset means that the center of the wheel is moved towards the vehicle, while negative offset means the center of the wheel is moved away from the vehicle. Some images on the bottom will help figure this out.

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In most cases, the factory wheels have positive offset (especially the new Explorers). Now most aftermarket wheels will have negative offset to push the wheel out further - reason being is to clear bigger tires and to keep you away from hitting frame, bumper, fender well, etc with your tires. The bad part is that there will be more load on the lugs, bearings, spindles, and even cause a larger turning radius. Also the tires will go past the fender well, which in some states can be illegal. Another good thing about negative offset besides clearing bigger tires is the imroved stability with being wider.

Measuring Offset and Backspacing:

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Backspacing is easy to measure. Place a straight edge across the wheel like above and then measure from the bottom of the straight edge to the mounting pad of the wheel. This will give you your backspacing measurments.

To calculate offset is even easier, measure the wheel's overall width, subtract its backspace measurement, and divide that by two. You're done.

Examples:

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That picture is of my newest wheels (15x8s) with 3-3/4" backspacing and -19mm offset. That picture demonstrates how far the wheel is pushed out with that set up.

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That picture is of the oldest setup which is 15x8s with 3.25" backspacing and -30 offset.



So if the backspacing is 3.25" and the offset is -30mm (-1.18 inches) and your wheel width is 8" then you have 3.57" of wheel that will stick out from where it mounts. It is a little complicated to understand, but it's simple once you do get the hang of it. Refer to the bottom for a picture. It is a rough estimate of what the measurments would look like with a wheel.


Use this to calculate MM to Inches and vise versa


NEW: Offset Calculator

Hope this helps a lot of people out. :thumbsup:

-Drew
 

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ok. sorry, im confused. i am ordering 365/75 R16 mud tires or my 05 Sport Trac. i am trying to understand what all the backspacing and offset do. if i want my tires to stick a little bit out, what is a good backspacing and offset combo for a rim?
 



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correction: ordering 265/75 R16 mud tires. sorry
 






Use the stock rims. Thats what i did when i had that size. If u want new rims, then get them with the stock offset (sorry dont know what that is). A good way to start is to pick the exact rims u want, then they usually only come in 1 or 2 offsets so it minimizes the possibilities. Remember, "offset" is the exact same thing as "backspacing" just a diff way of calculating it. Some rim cos use offset, some bckspc, some give u both numbers.
 






Sorry, I just saw you said you wanted them to stick out more.

I have 15" x 8" rims for my 33" tall 12.5" wide tires. The rims have a -19mm (-0.75") offset or a 3.75" backspacing. This offset is more negative than stock, which means they stick out a little more. The rim is also wider too (I believe stock width is 7"), so the rims stick out another 0.5" because of that.

With those tires (= 31.5" tall x 10.5" wide), I would run a stock 7" rim width (in either 15" or 16", any larger rim, you would need to go wider), but if you want to stick out more, go with a -19mm (-0.75") offset (this would equal a 3.25" backspacing on a 7" rim), which is slightly more negative than stock. It's best to be conservative when deviating from the stock numbers because a lot of things can change.

Did I confuse you yet?
 






ok. thanks. i think i am going to either a wider tire, or just get the next bigger size, the 285/75 R16
 






ok. thanks. i think i am going to either a wider tire, or just get the next bigger size, the 285/75 R16
does anyone know if 285/75 R16 mud tires will fit on stock Sport Trac rims? (16x7)
 












uh ... looks like the forum is being hacked hardcore right now. what is going on??
 






uh ... looks like the forum is being hacked hardcore right now. what is going on??
yea, i think it being hacked or something. but yea, i saw that the rim width for the 285/75 R16 is 7.5 to 9 inches. i just didnt know if anybody had put that size on the stock rim. (16x7)
 












oh. april fools. maybe it will be straight tomorrow.
 












...If you click the "How To" in my signature, you will probably find your answer in the first paragraph..;)
 












...Take a look at the last picture in the first post of this thread...;)

..The only difference is, you will have 3.58 BS (as you stated), and that is less than a 1/4 " different than 3.75" BS...This will push your wheels out just a little, I hope this helps...

...If I'm missing something, let me know...
 






07 offset ?

I have an 07 X with stock 17 inch rims. I have no idea what the offset is. I want to put on 24x10" rims but I DO NOT want them to stick out. I also do not want them to rub on the inside as well. Can someone please help me out??
 






What exactly is the rubbing differences you guys have discovered between 15x8 with 3.75 and 4.00? (33's) Seems like I can find cheaper wheels that come in the 4.00BS than the 3.75BS..

From what I figure, 3.75 should put you at about stock with 15x8 and with 4.00bs on 15x8 they should stick out a little bit more? (considering the stock is 4.5?)
 






JCUZ, do you have any pics on how you made your eX an 8-seater???? I am making a "back" third row seat for the kids that they can fold down the factory back quarter seat to get in/out but if you have pics it'd make my life easier.
 






Ok, i am still confused. The rims I want run a 40 MM offset for the explorer bolt pattern, and if the 2001 Explorer Sport has a 0 offset, then what adapters do I have to use?
 



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OK here is wait I am wanting to know I have a 1990 Ranger 2 wheel drive and I want to know can I mjake my rims from a 1992 F150 fit the Ranger. Now the Ranger has 14" on it and the F150 has 15"
 






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