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Custom Explorer Chassis

Discussion in 'Seriously Lowered Explorer - Ranger Suspension Tec' started by slammedxonair, April 17, 2009.

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      For suspension geometry, if each axle is say 18" long, and the LCA's are 22" long, the camber will change with the ride height. That's good for handling in the front etc, but not ideal for a vehicle that has big ride height changes.

      I understand that the center section has mounting ears made for the LCA, that's great. But if a tiny subframe was made there to extend those points out the 2-3 inches that would allow shorter LCA's, then the geometry would be better. I'm not suggesting doing away with the adjustability. Leave that in there, setting the camber is different. If you make the camber right with equal length LCA's to match the axles, then the camber stays the same at all ride heights.

      For lifting a wheel, I just wondered what would happen if the frame lays on the ground, and more air comes out of the bags? Just curious about that, you have the frame so low that it could rest on the ground and have the weight off of the tires.
       
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      Camber changes shouldnt be that bad because the pivot points on the other end (near the wheel) arent vertical from each other - the LCA ends before the U-joint's cap center.

      As for lifting a wheel: thats pretty much impossible - in order to lift a wheel off the ground with pneumatic, you'd need a double-acting pneumatic (or hydraulic) cylidner, not air bags. The air compressor is a positive pressure unit - it does not create a vacuum and even if it did, it would need to create enough vacuum to lift the wheel/tire combo (which is probably impossible).
       
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      yea you would have to use air cylinders, 2 air bags or a limit strap of sorts. The bags will be setup 100% compressed when the frame touches the ground.
       
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      Hello everyone. Here is a quick update I've been pretty busy lately and haven't taken many pics, but so far half of the welds on the frame are ground down and I got the shear load gussets ready to go.

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      I got almost all the grinding done on the butt welds and metal finnished other than a couple on the bottom.

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      Update: I have all of the shear load gussets tig welded to the outside of the frame. Only a couple pics right before I cleaned up.

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      wow dude. I normally dont like these types of rides but that thing is winning me over! lol
      you got my respect. that is some SERIOUS nice work! :thumbsup:

      do you have a cnc plasma machine to cut out stuff?
       
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      Thanks for the comment. And yes I do have a CNC plasma system. It's a Dynatorch system with a Hypertherm 1250 plasma. It's an industrial system with servo motors. Heres the pics I have from my old shop of it.
      Heres a couple vids of it as well
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      This is when I first got it and before I put the cutting slats on it.
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      Some bag brackets I was making for my truck.
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      thats a nice set up there. I have used a plasmacam system at shop and i love cnc work.
      how well do you like the Hypertherm 1250? I herd they are the best out there. that and thermal dynamics.
      to anyone wondering.. miller sucks. thats what we use and it always cuts out randomly and its not because we have air in the line or bad ground, tips, cups etc. they just suck.

      this is what i might get when I can find $17,000+ :p
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdC9QbG6lj0&feature=related

      what program do you run?
      also. with all that frame/suspension work is that going to be street legal?
       
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      Yea the Hypertherm 1250 in my opinion is the best single phase air plasma on the market, it also can be hooked up 3 phase as well. The software to run it is the dynatoch cutting program along with there premium package that includes the nesting and raster to vector software. I mainly use autocad 06 for doing designs though.

      As for being street legal it probably depends on the state. Theres people all over the place that build trucks like this and even lower. My personal explorer lays the rockers flat on the ground. All of my receipts on everything I do is marked for show and off road use only, even know the air line fittings and other things are DOT approved.

      The mission with this project was build a awsome looking chassis that lays on the ground, can handle 500hp, and will ride like a caddy.
       
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      its official. im going with hypertherm. too many people say the same thing lol

      that would be kick ass if it was street legal.
      where do you find those inboard brakes? is that common?
      i've seen them on millitary hummers and a racecars but thats about all..
      well I cant wait to see what it looks like when its finished!
       
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      I only snapped 1 pic tonight but all of the inside shear load gussets are formed and welded up now.
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      Todays update, I trimmed both sides of the m2 crossmember then formed and tig welded a filler panel on the one side. I would have got more done but I had parts to build as well. I need to quit takin pics at night with my blackberry lol.

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      Todays update: I formed and welded up the other sides boxing plate on the front crossmember and then metal finnished both sides. I also took the flap disk to some of the frame rails as well and wiped them down with wd40 to keep them from rusting.

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      Spent a few hours tonight grinding the rest of the chassis to bare metal, then I wipped the whole chassis down with wd40 to prevent rust. I also bolted the rearend and front control arms back on. And started playing around with the bag placement.

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      Looks great! It's a shame it will be covered by a body ;)
       
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      I spent the entire day today working on the chassis and trying to figure out how I want the bags to go. I adjusted the rear control arms so the wheels go negative now rather than positive. I also got the torque arms in and set them up to where they don't bind up so much with all the travel.

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      the motors spec sheet is listed in post #64 I have no idea what the customers doing with the motor really lol thats at the motor shop in Indy with the body.
       
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      Here are some pics of the chassis at Dropt N Destroyed 6. Thanks to everybody that stopped by and said hi!

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      This is a 5 star thread.
       
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      Now toss the body on there and call it the flinstones explorer haha.
       
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      lol thanks for the comments
       

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