Itchybruno47
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- 93 EXPLODER XLT 4.0 OHV
I am posting this as a new thread as I am a rookie here and just realized that I jumped in on a solved thread. I am assuming that I will get a lot more attention starting a new thread vs continuing on dead / solved thread...the original thread and extra info is from here:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126647
I originally started studying this tranny shtick because I have a noisy start, loud idle, loud in all gears when rpm's are low, but when rpm's bumped up via throttle to 800+ things sound great. I have done the scope, the wooden dowel, the cup to the ear and all rattling is coming from the bellhouse, specifically the front bellhouse area.(T. converter and flexplate housing). I say front because it looks to me like things are in 3 pieces, engine, bellhouse front, bellhouse back / tranny...hence the wanting to get the tranny down and have a poke at the TC and flexplate....
other info:
93 Exploder, XLT,
4.0 OHV, AUtomatic (A4LD) 4 door, with air,
4x4
Pushing 312,000 with apparently all stock components,
recents: Rad, water pump, heater core, original engine, and I assume original tranny, regular fluids / filters etc etc
I should also note that the lifters, (just like everyone elses I assume), are loud till warm up, and aside from the horrible gravel in a can noise the truck runs and drives just like it always has in the 4 years I have had it.
Below is where the thread takes of from the old dead one I am leaving from....
I lied. Now that you put me back to the pics, it is NOT the first I have heard about the engine support. Thanks for that Bruce!
Once I have the beast out, does anyone have any advice on the smartest way to remove the flexplate?? IF this is what is making all the noise, will it be apparent that it is the flex plate or the torque converter? I have used a stethoscope, dowel in the ear, cup to the ear ad all the noise is coming from the bellhousing, the front section of it. Does it seem likely that this could be my problem(s)??
Revised step list...
Front end on ramps, back end on axle stands, E BRAKE
1)Kill the battery neg cable,
2)ditch the starter,
3.1) label plug wires, remove from plugs, pull plugs,
3.2) MARK relations and ditch the back drive shaft,
3.3) Remove the FOUR torque converter bolts, holding TC to flexplate. Spin engine by hand from main crank or use fatty flatty screwdriver to spin flexplate by its teeth
4 ditch and plug tranny cooler lines,
5.5 disconnect shift linkage (automatic), (do I need to mark where this sits so that it will align back up when I put the beast back together?
6 disconnect "electrical component" on side of tranny (speed sensor or....?),
7 unbolt tranny from tranny hangar (or whatever it's called) at the rear of the tranny holding it up,
10 jack tranny up till it just clears the hangar at the rear of the tranny,
11 ditch tranny hangar / support at rear,
12 rubber glove over drive shaft end of tranny to catch the slop that I assume will come out of there when it comes down,
13 SUPPORT ENGINE TOP AND BOTTOM
13 with tranny weight ALL on jack, remove all bellhouse to engine bolts,
14 slide tranny with torque converter straight back and away from engine, and lower to ground without smashing it.
Thanks again to anyone who can throw some knowledge at my face...
IB
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126647
I originally started studying this tranny shtick because I have a noisy start, loud idle, loud in all gears when rpm's are low, but when rpm's bumped up via throttle to 800+ things sound great. I have done the scope, the wooden dowel, the cup to the ear and all rattling is coming from the bellhouse, specifically the front bellhouse area.(T. converter and flexplate housing). I say front because it looks to me like things are in 3 pieces, engine, bellhouse front, bellhouse back / tranny...hence the wanting to get the tranny down and have a poke at the TC and flexplate....
other info:
93 Exploder, XLT,
4.0 OHV, AUtomatic (A4LD) 4 door, with air,
4x4
Pushing 312,000 with apparently all stock components,
recents: Rad, water pump, heater core, original engine, and I assume original tranny, regular fluids / filters etc etc
I should also note that the lifters, (just like everyone elses I assume), are loud till warm up, and aside from the horrible gravel in a can noise the truck runs and drives just like it always has in the 4 years I have had it.
Below is where the thread takes of from the old dead one I am leaving from....
I lied. Now that you put me back to the pics, it is NOT the first I have heard about the engine support. Thanks for that Bruce!
Once I have the beast out, does anyone have any advice on the smartest way to remove the flexplate?? IF this is what is making all the noise, will it be apparent that it is the flex plate or the torque converter? I have used a stethoscope, dowel in the ear, cup to the ear ad all the noise is coming from the bellhousing, the front section of it. Does it seem likely that this could be my problem(s)??
Revised step list...
Front end on ramps, back end on axle stands, E BRAKE
1)Kill the battery neg cable,
2)ditch the starter,
3.1) label plug wires, remove from plugs, pull plugs,
3.2) MARK relations and ditch the back drive shaft,
3.3) Remove the FOUR torque converter bolts, holding TC to flexplate. Spin engine by hand from main crank or use fatty flatty screwdriver to spin flexplate by its teeth
4 ditch and plug tranny cooler lines,
5.5 disconnect shift linkage (automatic), (do I need to mark where this sits so that it will align back up when I put the beast back together?
6 disconnect "electrical component" on side of tranny (speed sensor or....?),
7 unbolt tranny from tranny hangar (or whatever it's called) at the rear of the tranny holding it up,
10 jack tranny up till it just clears the hangar at the rear of the tranny,
11 ditch tranny hangar / support at rear,
12 rubber glove over drive shaft end of tranny to catch the slop that I assume will come out of there when it comes down,
13 SUPPORT ENGINE TOP AND BOTTOM
13 with tranny weight ALL on jack, remove all bellhouse to engine bolts,
14 slide tranny with torque converter straight back and away from engine, and lower to ground without smashing it.
Thanks again to anyone who can throw some knowledge at my face...
IB