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Barack Obama linked 2nd gen. SAS

So let me first start with a quick introduction .. my name is Barack Obama and apparently I'm the junior US Senator from Illinois :thumbsup: . I love slow walks on the beach and bed-side stories. Yeah I'm talking to you big boy:

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Okay now onto the goods...

So recently I've been starting a few threads all relating to my Dana 44 front axle and other tid bits - so I figured it would be best if I just started an SAS thread to pull all of those threads together into one centralize place instead of having them floating about the sea of other threads.

Follow me now as I look back on the threads that I've started:

1) Reading Pinion Depth Number In this thread, I was confused on which number was the pinion depth offset number of my ring and pinion set for the Dana 44. After calling up the good people of Randy's Ring and Pinion, I was told that the numbers on the ring and pinion are no longer used for the pinion depth offset. So I'm like wtf m8!? They did give me a number to start from and so thats what I started with.

2) Ford 9" For Off-Road Use In this thread, I ask the general public what they think about the Ford-9" axle for off-road use. Conclusion, bowties - the GM 14-bolt axle with the stock Detroit locker is a God's send and so thats what I'm going with (it comes with a pinion bearing support - just like the Ford-9").

3) RE SuperFlex Assemby I've never put together a Rubicon Express SuperFlex Joint so in this thread, I ask the public how in the world these things are put togehter. And to be more specific, I was confused how to drive the plastic bushings into the housing. Conclusion - use a press <- faaantastic.

4) Hi-Steer Arms 10-degree Correction In this fabulous discussion, we discuss the ever-popular 10-degree correction that is often placed on High-Steer Arms. In the end, I decided to go with the Sky-Manufacturing arms (although I never updated the thread I dont think - darnit).

5) Dana 44 Ball Joint Sleeve > Replace? Ah finally, the pain in the asymptote. In this thread, which I have yet to resolve really, the problem is that the upper Ball Joint sleeve has frozen itself onto the "C" (aka inner knuckle). The issue has yet to be resolved so no conclusion yet.


Well then, lets dive into some concepts and design ideas.

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As you can see, the front axle is located via a 3-link with a panhard bar. Each link will be mounted to the chassis using Rubicon Express Large SuperFlex Joint. Why go with the RE Joint? Well I was quite impressed at how much JEFE's front axle flexed - so I decided to go with the same joint. I recently asked him whether or not he has broken the 9/16" bolts used to attach the joint to the chassis and he said no - a big :thumbsup: . The link's body is made of a 2"x2" - 0.25" wall square tube - similar to Clayton Off-Road's long arms. Currently, my calculations are aiming for the bottom links to be 38.7" in length and the upper to be 34.2" (figures may change). This gives me an anti-dive of about 105% but I will make the upper link adjustable vertically at the chassis so the anti-dive characteristic can be fine tuned. The bottom links are angled "toe-out" becaue the Dana 44 is a "Wide-Track" axle and the Explorer's chassis is about 2" narrower than the Wide-Track axle's ideal mounting points. The "toe-out" angle however is not severe : about 2" out for the about total 38" length. The two bottom links are attached to the axle via a regular rubber-bushing. The upper "third" link is attached to the axle with the same type of rubber bushing except this one is adjustable - to allow for pinion angle changes.

Onto the front axle itself: As stated, the front "Wide Track" axle is from a Grand Wagoneer (I believe '86). Currently, its geared 5.13 with open differential. I'll throw in a locker in the future after I get this running. The axle was originally running the Wagoneer 6-lug bolt pattern but, because the rear GM 14-bolt is 8-lug, I switched the Dana 44 to 8-lug pattern using parts from a K20 (caliper bracket from a J20). As for the high-steer arms, as stated previously, I decided to go with SkyManufacturing's standard arms with the 10-degree correction angle (arms are on their way from CA).

The steering gear box is out of an IFS Toyota and the entire steering setup will utilize only Chevy TRE's except at the pitman arm.

The front axle will be suspended by Fox 2.5" Nitrogen Air Shocks with 16" of travel.

The rear axle, again as stated before, is a GM 14-bolt with a Detroit locker. Initially, it will be leaf sprung using the Explorer's stock leaf springs (with an AAL and WAR153s). However, I do plan on going 4-link in the near future after the Explorer starts rolling again.

Now onto some newbie pics..


The axle the day it arrived from New Jersey:
axle_pickup.jpg


Before last winter came, I emptied an entire can of Liquid Wrench (and other llubricants) into the differential to soak everything down in preparation for the following spring.
d44_greased.jpg


When spring finally came, the axle was torn down:
d44_housing.jpg


New carrier and new gears. The carrier bearings below are the set-up bearings which have had their inner races grinded down for repetative installation and removal on the carrier while the pinion and ring gear geometry was fine tuned:
d44_carrier.jpg

Spring also brought wheeling weather and I got high-centered on a rock so I decided to SOA the back for fun (the thing on the back is my snowboard and bike rack) and had to get my driveshaft retubed because it popped in half:
soa_backshot.jpg


The caliper brakets from a J20 after sand blasting and a coat of epoxy paint:
d44_caliperbracket_painted.jpg


Flat-top knuckles from a J10 masked off and ready for some epoxy paint:
d44_knuckle_ready_for_paint.jpg


Inner "C"s on the front axle sliced from the axle tubes (and temporarily knocked out about .125" for easier rotation) to set proper caster angle:
inner_c_sliced.jpg


Chevy K20 8-lug rotors .. "Oh my Mr. Obama, what big rotors you have. Why yes Sally, I do have big rotors." :
d44_rotor.jpg


Chevy K20 calipers:
d44_caliper.jpg


And finally for now, the RE SuperFlex joints:
re_joint.jpg


As for tires, right now I have a set of 36" TSL-SX's I bought for cheap from a local individual.


So what's in the future? Well the rest of the link parts are on their way - as well as the high steer arms. The Fox shocks will be purchased in about 2 weeks and the 14-bolt axle will be picked up about 3 weeks to a month after that. The rear axle is the least of my worries so that's the last thing on this Senator's mind.
 



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yeah the signing off thig works in most situations but when the fix-it-ticket has a suspension part checked off, a state inspection place has to sign it off.
 



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what is the bumper height in your area cause it is 31 inches max in TN and i dont have to have mud flaps
 






I'm not exactly sure what it is in MD but its somewhere around ~24 inches.
 












Maryland law is 28"..
 












Any more info or pics of the XJ? That thing looks sic!
 






Well today I did an at-home alignment as suggested earlier and it did help with the problem a little bit. I can take the vehicle up to 50 mph now. There is still a slight shake but the vehicle doesnt shake and roll like a dog trying to dry itself from a bath.

I haven't gone past 50 mph because the stretch of road I was testing at just wasnt long enough. Also, at 50mph, the vehicle's "boat" characteristics is just a little on the scary side - an anti-sway bar is definitely required for highway speeds.

I did find that one of the front wheel/tire isnt perfectly round. When I had the tire up off the ground a few millimeters, I rotated it and at one point, the tire would touch the ground. Rotate it some more and the tire was off the ground. So that could perhaps be one of the reasons why theres a shaking.
 






IZwack said:
Well today I did an at-home alignment as suggested earlier and it did help with the problem a little bit. I can take the vehicle up to 50 mph now. There is still a slight shake but the vehicle doesnt shake and roll like a dog trying to dry itself from a bath.

I haven't gone past 50 mph because the stretch of road I was testing at just wasnt long enough. Also, at 50mph, the vehicle's "boat" characteristics is just a little on the scary side - an anti-sway bar is definitely required for highway speeds.

I did find that one of the front wheel/tire isnt perfectly round. When I had the tire up off the ground a few millimeters, I rotated it and at one point, the tire would touch the ground. Rotate it some more and the tire was off the ground. So that could perhaps be one of the reasons why theres a shaking.
1- Interco usually doesnt make a "round" bias tire. Sorry. :p:

2- When you checked the tires for runout, you made sure to drive it far enough to get the flat spots out, right? Ive had SX's and for whatever reason it seems to take them alot longer drive to get the flat spots out than a regular bias TSL.
 






james t said:
1- Interco usually doesnt make a "round" bias tire. Sorry. :p:

2- When you checked the tires for runout, you made sure to drive it far enough to get the flat spots out, right? Ive had SX's and for whatever reason it seems to take them alot longer drive to get the flat spots out than a regular bias TSL.
Gotcha :D I'm not the first owner of these SXs and there are parts of the most outter lugs missing ;) So its definitely been through hell but the tread depth is still good.

I guess I'll just settle for the current setup - I mean I'm happy to be able to drive it up a little bit past 50 mph ..
 






i have radial tsl and i can tell a differance between a week in town and then goin to the hwy or just spending time on the hwy
 












james t said:
How did you balance them?
I put about 12 ounces of AirSoft pellets in each tire :D There are different densities .. I found the .2 gram ones which are pretty dense.
 






I was just thinking, maybe I should put a steering stabailizer shock at the front to kind of dampen all of these mini-earthquakes at high speeds. I know the front FSJ d44 I'm using originally came with one.
 






Positive Vibes said:
Any more info or pics of the XJ? That thing looks sic!

Nope, sorry. All i know is they are 40's with D60, coilovers, internal and external cage.
 






IZwack said:
I was just thinking, maybe I should put a steering stabailizer shock at the front to kind of dampen all of these mini-earthquakes at high speeds. I know the front FSJ d44 I'm using originally came with one.
Honestly those things are more of a band-aid than anything. Find out what your problem is first. What is your caster reading? Is your toe set properly? Hell, getting a sway bar on there may help since you're running airshocks.
 






The caster is at 5 degrees - I set them when I re-welded the inner knuckles. THe toe was done yesterday and thats what helped greatly - allowing me to push the vehicle past 40mph.
 






Could the wheels be out of balance?
 






[QUOTE='97 V8]Could the wheels be out of balance?[/QUOTE]Not with 12oz of pellets in each tire.
 



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I'm not really too worried about the vibrations anymore cauz I can drive it past 50 mph now so I'm satisfied. Plus the tires are just too beaten up so I'm sure that has some influence.

Right now I'm working on a tube bumper for the T-Max. I hope to be done with it by the end of tomorrow (yes I will post pics)
 






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