Legator
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- Wawanesa, Manitoba
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- Explorer 95 Limited
This is kind of a long story, but maybe someone has some Ideas I am open for anything. When we came to Canada our first car was a 94 Explorer XLT, and I fell in love with it. But in last December it broke down, and I decided to look for a replacement. I bought a 95 Explorer Limited, and I love that car.
When I bought it I new it was a rebuild, and the pre-owner told me about the few problems he had no time to fix. One was the Temperature Gauge that was acting up, but the Engine was OK. The Air ride system did not work, but he was unable to find the problem. And the Daytime running light was not working as well.
Since my husband is a Truck mechanic and it did not look like as if the problems where very big I bought it. Mostly because I was in desperate need of a car and the owner in desperate need of selling to pay some bills.
The car was running like a dream, well it had a new engine and transmission in it, so it should be running like new.... I think....
We wanted to start fixing the problems soon as it would warm up, but it came otherwise.
About four weeks ago, the battery sight started to light up, and the power gauge did show that the alternator was not loading. The wired thing about it was that the car was starting perfectly. Since I had anyway a appointment for an oil change, I let the guys look after that as well.
That´s when I found out that the OBD 2 reader in my passenger room was useless, also I did not know why, and neither did the mechanics. But they could not find anything wrong with my alternator.
Soooo.... the next day I start the car with the intention to go to work, and it started fine. While driving into a fog bank the light in the dashboard went blank, then the one from radio, air condition and computer in that order.
Then the motor started to stutter, I drove to the shoulder and stopped just in time to hear my engine go dead.
It did not start again, and I let it tow to a shop.
Now like I said the car was mostly working fine before this.
The shop told me that my alternator was fried as well as the wires behind it, and that those had caused a shortage in my electrical system. Thy put in a new alternator, fixed the wires and after that they told me that my PCM was damaged as well. Grrrr.... but oh well I love that car, so I let them replace it.
They could not put the program on, and brought it to Ford Kerllher in Brandon to get that done.
Since they are a certified Ford dealership and shop, I phoned them and told them to give the car a good checkup, especially the electrical system.
Two days later I went there to pick up my car, that according to Ford was fixed.
The moment I started the car I knew there was something... well different, it did not sound right. When I put in Reverse it was like a hit, and it never had done that before. Then when I drove it it was reacting kind of slow, and when I reached 50 Kmh it went into high REV.
Well I took it right back to Ford and told them to fix it.
Two day´s later they phoned and told me they had fixed it. So I got the car, after work. It was not fixed at all. The same problem came up, and I also noticed that my computer inside the car was kind of frozen. The instant use of foul showed 2.0L and the average 2.3L of 100 constantly.
I took it back and talked to them the next day, since they already had closed. But they told me that they would not fix it, for once because they had fixed it, and because my wires would be the wrong colour. Another reason was that Engine and Transmission where not original. Unless I would let them replace Engine, Transmission and Harness, they would do nothing.
Well I am no mechanic, but to me this did not seem to be a mechanical problem but an electrical one. And since the car was working before the shortage, the wire's cant have been that wrong.
I took it home, and surprisingly it did not go into High REV again, even though nobody had done anything at the car since I parked it.
Now it drives, but it is always 500 REV higher than it should be, starts in third gear most of the time, and has no overdrive. The button does not work at all, but I checked the button and it is fine.
The computer is still frozen, I mean the one inside my car not the PCM.
I had the car in another shop, not a Ford specific one.... have enough of those for a while.... he took the car more or less apart and back together... measured all the wires...they are fine but could not find a reason for the malfunction.
Yesterday than I found you guy´s here. After reading a little bit in here I told my husband to check the fuse for the cigarette lighter. It was loose, he pushed it in and my Air ride system came online.... thanks for that tipp by the way... and boooo to whoever constructed that....
I also read about this hybrid thing Ford did with the 95 models, putting in a OBD 2 Reading outlett, with a ECC IV PCM.... this morning I found, thanks to you people, the ECC Test conection and we will try to jump it in the evening when my husband is back from work.
I am not brave enough on my own, I am scared to break it....or delete all the data or something.... I know it should be simple.... Well I hope the codes will help us to determine what is wrong with the car.
If any of you have suggestions... I am all ears....
I know that the car is most likely a money pit... and I should not have bought it as rebuild...and so on... my husband already told me that over and over again... but I love the car so much... well I get attached to things...
Thanks for the help I already got from all the treads in here, and sorry for any bad english... I am still learning...
Nicole
When I bought it I new it was a rebuild, and the pre-owner told me about the few problems he had no time to fix. One was the Temperature Gauge that was acting up, but the Engine was OK. The Air ride system did not work, but he was unable to find the problem. And the Daytime running light was not working as well.
Since my husband is a Truck mechanic and it did not look like as if the problems where very big I bought it. Mostly because I was in desperate need of a car and the owner in desperate need of selling to pay some bills.
The car was running like a dream, well it had a new engine and transmission in it, so it should be running like new.... I think....
We wanted to start fixing the problems soon as it would warm up, but it came otherwise.
About four weeks ago, the battery sight started to light up, and the power gauge did show that the alternator was not loading. The wired thing about it was that the car was starting perfectly. Since I had anyway a appointment for an oil change, I let the guys look after that as well.
That´s when I found out that the OBD 2 reader in my passenger room was useless, also I did not know why, and neither did the mechanics. But they could not find anything wrong with my alternator.
Soooo.... the next day I start the car with the intention to go to work, and it started fine. While driving into a fog bank the light in the dashboard went blank, then the one from radio, air condition and computer in that order.
Then the motor started to stutter, I drove to the shoulder and stopped just in time to hear my engine go dead.
It did not start again, and I let it tow to a shop.
Now like I said the car was mostly working fine before this.
The shop told me that my alternator was fried as well as the wires behind it, and that those had caused a shortage in my electrical system. Thy put in a new alternator, fixed the wires and after that they told me that my PCM was damaged as well. Grrrr.... but oh well I love that car, so I let them replace it.
They could not put the program on, and brought it to Ford Kerllher in Brandon to get that done.
Since they are a certified Ford dealership and shop, I phoned them and told them to give the car a good checkup, especially the electrical system.
Two days later I went there to pick up my car, that according to Ford was fixed.
The moment I started the car I knew there was something... well different, it did not sound right. When I put in Reverse it was like a hit, and it never had done that before. Then when I drove it it was reacting kind of slow, and when I reached 50 Kmh it went into high REV.
Well I took it right back to Ford and told them to fix it.
Two day´s later they phoned and told me they had fixed it. So I got the car, after work. It was not fixed at all. The same problem came up, and I also noticed that my computer inside the car was kind of frozen. The instant use of foul showed 2.0L and the average 2.3L of 100 constantly.
I took it back and talked to them the next day, since they already had closed. But they told me that they would not fix it, for once because they had fixed it, and because my wires would be the wrong colour. Another reason was that Engine and Transmission where not original. Unless I would let them replace Engine, Transmission and Harness, they would do nothing.
Well I am no mechanic, but to me this did not seem to be a mechanical problem but an electrical one. And since the car was working before the shortage, the wire's cant have been that wrong.
I took it home, and surprisingly it did not go into High REV again, even though nobody had done anything at the car since I parked it.
Now it drives, but it is always 500 REV higher than it should be, starts in third gear most of the time, and has no overdrive. The button does not work at all, but I checked the button and it is fine.
The computer is still frozen, I mean the one inside my car not the PCM.
I had the car in another shop, not a Ford specific one.... have enough of those for a while.... he took the car more or less apart and back together... measured all the wires...they are fine but could not find a reason for the malfunction.
Yesterday than I found you guy´s here. After reading a little bit in here I told my husband to check the fuse for the cigarette lighter. It was loose, he pushed it in and my Air ride system came online.... thanks for that tipp by the way... and boooo to whoever constructed that....
I also read about this hybrid thing Ford did with the 95 models, putting in a OBD 2 Reading outlett, with a ECC IV PCM.... this morning I found, thanks to you people, the ECC Test conection and we will try to jump it in the evening when my husband is back from work.
I am not brave enough on my own, I am scared to break it....or delete all the data or something.... I know it should be simple.... Well I hope the codes will help us to determine what is wrong with the car.
If any of you have suggestions... I am all ears....
I know that the car is most likely a money pit... and I should not have bought it as rebuild...and so on... my husband already told me that over and over again... but I love the car so much... well I get attached to things...
Thanks for the help I already got from all the treads in here, and sorry for any bad english... I am still learning...
Nicole