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bmeadow1

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I have a 2004 V6 explorer and i saw my only option for an intake was a KKM one. So i was wondering how good of an intake it was?
 



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I'd say the filter is as good as any aftermarket oiled cone filter. Recommend you get the outerwear for it also for extra filtration.

The adapter piece is machined aluminum...good quality work.

I did it but I wouldn't say I got a huge gain power wise or mileage wise. Main reason for me to have it now is because it is less likely than the stock airbox to suck water into the intake when fording deep water.

It is definitely not a cold air intake...in the summer the intake air temps get as high as 130-140 degrees. The stock airbox does a good job of pulling in cooler air so you might be better served with a drop in K&N filter and the stock airbox.
 






if your willing to spend an extra few bucks you can purchase the correct ford slot type MAF adapter and use the K & N kit. I used an adapter and the KN fit perfectly.
 






which K and N kit did you use? and what type of adaptor did you use?
 


















I'd say the filter is as good as any aftermarket oiled cone filter. Recommend you get the outerwear for it also for extra filtration.

The adapter piece is machined aluminum...good quality work.

I did it but I wouldn't say I got a huge gain power wise or mileage wise. Main reason for me to have it now is because it is less likely than the stock airbox to suck water into the intake when fording deep water.

It is definitely not a cold air intake...in the summer the intake air temps get as high as 130-140 degrees. The stock airbox does a good job of pulling in cooler air so you might be better served with a drop in K&N filter and the stock airbox.

I'm totally agree and HP gain was only 5.6 HP and less low end torque. This gain will not be accomplished unless you do a performance tuning

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2748872&postcount=27

Now I'm using Stock air box with aFe Power Pro Dry S™ Air Filer #31-10074



I've tried to use bigger filter with KKM MAF adapter and used AEM’s Brute Force Dryflow™ filter #21-2113BF

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321239

but with out tuning you'll get CEL and with the tuning you'll get better HP gain with poor millage
 






if your willing to spend an extra few bucks you can purchase the correct ford slot type MAF adapter and use the K & N kit. I used an adapter and the KN fit perfectly.
Where do you get the MAF adapter?
 






Where do you get the MAF adapter?

Apparently there not too popular so they are a little harder to find. They pop up on ebay from time to time. Do a google search for "ford slot type MAF adapter"

 






Did your setup ever end up throwing any codes?

No it never threw any codes and its almost been a year. still glad that I went with my setup over something else, love the volant intake.

The adapters aren't that rare... This is what I bought

http://store.spectreperformance.com/products/productdetail/part_number=9405/2231.0.1.1

Even though they don't ship to canada, theres a lady on ebay that sells them as well and shipped to me for around the same price. I just typed in 3" MAFS ADAPTER/TUNING KIT and it shows up there as well.
 






cortney: i really like your set up, so all you did was get those three parts and that aluminium plate? what were the dimensions for that plate too?
 






cortney: i really like your set up, so all you did was get those three parts and that aluminium plate? what were the dimensions for that plate too?

Thank you. It's worked awesome for me, yep I just needed the air intake, step down coupler and the adapter and plate. The only thing I didn't mention in that wright up was that when I used the die grinder to take the weld down on the inside of the adapter, the sleeve that fits in was a little loose. So I just took some electrical tape and wrapped it a couple times around the sleeve and it fit in there great. The measurement of the plate was 4 1/4"x4 1/4" and the plate I used was 1/8" thick.
 






What I really dont understand is why more companies aren't making slot-style MAF addaptors. My 06 Fusion V6 has the same style MAF and I was able to buy a K&N Typhoon for that only 1 year after I bought the car new.

That intake on that car BTW, is a night and day difference in performance. It was dyno proven to add 11 HP to the wheels in stock form and the Tq is definitly up by my SOTP measurement.
 






courtney- where did you get those intake parts from and where did you wrap it with electrical tape? i didnt see it in your pics
 






ok... maybe its worth covering the basics of air intakes again....

Yes I know that many feel that the MAF molded to the tops/side of the OE airbox is a restriction, but the MAF/Air box themselves are NOT at all the problem. MANY car brands use a similar set up and the combo flows fine. The problem is the INLEt to the airbox and the tubing going from the MAF to the Throttle body.

1. The convoluted tubing/elbow from the MAF with that honkin' rectangular silencer is 60% of the restriction. This silencer into the air-box is the other 40%.

2. Truth hurts... there is no 11-20hp gain CAI on a stock engine...Maybe at one little peak on the entire RPM band... but the rest of the band suffers. any gains are from taking care of the above mentioned OE inefficiencies and they can be cured for under $60 not $300 from a FIPK.

3. A good (aka NOT K&N) filter and a few mods to the airbox is about as much as you will get without other exhaust, tuning and intake mods.

4. 90% of the so called CAI's are actual HAI's HOT air intakes. they are simply an open filter of inferior design open to the under hood heat and fan wash. Both of which cause significant problems. Heat is the intakes worst enemy... DUH. Fan wash causes erratic MAF readings and idle and part throttle issues. FACT.

5. improvements in a modern EFI engine are accomplished in the "systems approach" the intake feeds the exhaust... if you jam more air in without helping it out AND adding fuel and timing all you are doing is leaning out the engine past the OE ECU calibration. FACT. Many purchased CAI's that ARE well made, Volant is about the ONLY well made packaged kit with a properly designed filter on the market, mimic OE designs for this reason. The engine will take what it wants AS it is needed. Open filter systems introduce unwanted turbulence, air changes and heat into the system tract the ECU cannot deal with.

If you are stock/mostly stock: Spectre HpR Filter (#889332) or a fresh paper filter, an updated intact tract as discussed by Caldwell in his stage 2 intake thread, and air box mod , also by caldwell will get you started. Even if you have a full on cat-back, with out a tune the airbox is not a MAJOR issue.

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278734&highlight=intake A FREEE MOD!

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296439&highlight=stage+2 REAL improvement for under $60

Rob

ps: http://volant.com/edetail.asp?ID=50 p# 19440 could be adapted for the 04-05's with the spectre slot adapter fiarly easily and I saw somewhere someone makes a flange/bolt style slot adapter like the 02-03MAF I just can't seem to find the link.

But look at the design of the Volant for a GOOD CAI...
 






Great post, Rob. :thumbsup:
 






SO rob your saying that there is now need to buy any of those intakes including the volant?

and can caldwell's set up work without drilling holes in the air box?
 






Sorry I've been driving from Charolette, NC to Dallas the last day & 1/2 with wife and 2 boys under 10... I am a tad frazzled.

But, that's what the jist of the basic theory, yes.

Caldwell's stage 1 with a good/new filter + Stage 2 is what most all trucks need even with a full exhaust, prior to a proper tune.

Remember: the Stage 2 will do MOE for the 04-up Drive-by-Wire (D-b-W) trucks than any other intake mod!!.. followed by a GOOD filter, then airbox mod. Then I would look at a ported D-b-W TB.

After a tune, then MAYBE a Volant will help get the absolute most out of a "Stage 2" (intake, exhaust, tune) set up. However for the D-b-W 04-up guys... there is additional cost in figuring out a MAF adapter that can bolt to the Volant air box.

For reference: my '02 Harley F150 (S/C 5.4 with all the supporting mods) LOST power with every intake I tried, didn't gain anything with the modded stock air box and NOTHING made power except the Volant.

As for Caldwell's recipe for the holes... I personally would go the 1-1.5" hole saw method vs a 5/8"-3/4" "swiss cheese" method. But either serves the same purpose... getting more air into the air box under/before the filter leading to the MAF and intake elbow.

Also, I am considering, for the wife's Monty, a fresh air duct from around the lower front grill(pass side) to take cold ("rammed") air up to the stock hole in the inner fender directly into the stock air box area. I have a 2nd OE air box I plan to try both the modded box and a non-modded with ram air to see which does best. Then I will go to a tune and Borla XS muffler with custom tailpipe....

Rob
 






well i was planning on fixing up my exhaust with a flowmaster 40 and wider tip. but you still skipped around my question of do i have to drill holes in the air box?

and how would you go about doing the tune?
 



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holes in the air box is fine. anything to get more air flow behind the filter that is COLD air, not underhood/heated air, is good.

Like I said I would use a 1" -1.5" whole saw instead of 5/8"-3/4" drill bit.

Tune talk with Henson or any of the supporting vendors who do tunes. Tell them your set up. they will write a tune for you. Probably already have a "standard tune" to end you.

I would avoid the Flowmaster if you want performance/improvements. Flowmaster is all about the specific sound, not performing well.

for reference, this is just one of hundreds of tests where Flowmaster simply "sounded" faster:

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/te...ler_comparison_test/muffler_dyno_numbers.html


Rob
 






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