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mynameisaric · January 24, 2008

well... i feel silly now.

95exploderboy · January 24, 2008

IZwack said:
Which reminds me, exploderboy, so what turned out be the reason for the huge fluid difference in the reservoir?

Not sure why I couldn't think of it before.... Its because being a single sided ram/cylinder, when the ram is extended there is more fluid volume because the cylinder is just filled with fluid. When it is fully compressed, then the cylinder is filled with fluid and the hydraulic ram/shaft. Seeing how its like a 1/5 - 2 inch ram, with an 8 inch stroke, I guess that enough to make a significant difference. Also..... I ended up forgetting my hydraulic reservoir in MD (boy was I upset when I figured that out) so I tried it again w/out an external res. I think my problem before when I was trying to purge it of air was because I was doing it with the cylinder connected to the steering, and it must not have been able to fully extend/compress. With the cylinder off the truck it only took a few full cycles before it was out of air. Needless to say right now I'm only using the stock Saginaw reservoir , but I plan to add my other reservoir when I have some free time.

Hmm.... lotta info, did I make sense?

Thanks SNJ, I like your camo paint

Aric, Like IZ said, its full hydro, you can see some shots of the steering gear earlier in my thread. I will also get some more shots of the finished/painted setup as soon as I get to PA again. Don't worry there are more pics of everything to come. It was too darn cold and dark on Monday to take any. I'll get many more when I can.

IZwack · January 24, 2008

95exploderboy said:
Not sure why I couldn't think of it before.... Its because being a single sided ram/cylinder, when the ram is extended there is more fluid volume because the cylinder is just filled with fluid. When it is fully compressed, then the cylinder is filled with fluid and the hydraulic ram/shaft. Seeing how its like a 1/5 - 2 inch ram, with an 8 inch stroke, I guess that enough to make a significant difference. Also..... I ended up forgetting my hydraulic reservoir in MD (boy was I upset when I figured that out) so I tried it again w/out an external res. I think my problem before when I was trying to purge it of air was because I was doing it with the cylinder connected to the steering, and it must not have been able to fully extend/compress. With the cylinder off the truck it only took a few full cycles before it was out of air. Needless to say right now I'm only using the stock Saginaw reservoir , but I plan to add my other reservoir when I have some free time.

Hmm.... lotta info, did I make sense?

Yeah gothca .. yeah that makes sense, the two sides of a single-ended ram dont have the same volume, I totally forgot about that too.

raynr · January 26, 2008

man that looks great i'm definitely jealous as well

95exploderboy · January 27, 2008

I decided to get out and try out the new setup today. I guess its called a break in run for a reason.

Double low is pretty slick in this thing. I was testing it out behind my house when I heard a "Bang". Jumped out to find this:

It looked like the joint broke first. All I saw broken when I first got out was the apparently crappy Precision ujoint and broken ears. I tried to crawl a little further and snapped the stub shaft. Total time out was about 30 min... I guess its time for alloy shafts and joints.

Here are some more crawling pics from today and a few of the fab work.

Trac bar, hydro coil mount pic.

Rear suspension and tank setup.

New shafts will be ordered this week. I had planned on getting them eventually, but not this soon. I have spares, but I don't feel like swapping shafts every trip at the rate I'm going. I wasn't even pushing it too hard.

I'll give some more updates this weekend after I get back from Denver and get some more work done.

IZwack · January 27, 2008

Ahh -- congratulations on the first broken U-joint

Bruces expo · January 27, 2008

wow good job on breaking your u joint and shaft lol, it happen's think of it that way !!

95exploderboy · January 27, 2008

Well thank you Mr. IZ.

I'm looking into something like this.. Wondering if they guy has the full warranty on the joints too. plus how does he warranty it. Online sellers can go away and you never find up again....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Bronco-F150-4340-Dana-44-Front-Axles-U-Joint-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33728QQihZ016QQitemZ260119782289QQtcZphoto

Any advice? Besides that shouldn't have sold my 60s...

IZwack · January 27, 2008

Looks like that kit comes with the standard 5-760 joints -- I would upgrade. If that joint shaters (which it will), it might take out the chromo shafts with it and that'll be a waste of $$. I know the higher end joints are waaayyy expensive, but its insurance against the axle shafts.

I have no idea what the warranty is, but it would probably be through Yukon for the shafts and Spicer for the joints.

95exploderboy · January 27, 2008

I'll be calling them on Monday to get some details. I'm also looking at some of the sets that Bronco Graveyard has. I need to see what the warranty is on the no name alloy shafts. I also got a quote on some Alloy USA shafts from machinewave on Pirate. Guess you can't go wrong with any product that has a good warranty as long as its easy to replace. Back to shopping...

Spas · January 28, 2008

Do you think it was because of your T-case's gearing that the U-joint snapped...?

scheki · January 28, 2008

Great job.

IZwack · January 28, 2008

Spas said:
Do you think it was because of your T-case's gearing that the U-joint snapped...?

I doubt it -- Im using a stock first gen transfer case (no doubler) and I've gone through two axle shafts and U-joints.

95exploderboy · January 28, 2008

I ended up ordering some Alloy USA inners and outters with the spicer non serviceable joints. We'll see how they hold up. I think the joints will be the weakest link here, but Alloy USA has a 10 year no questions asked wattanty so bring on the rocks.

IZwack · January 28, 2008

95exploderboy said:
I ended up ordering some Alloy USA inners and outters with the spicer non serviceable joints. We'll see how they hold up. I think the joints will be the weakest link here, but Alloy USA has a 10 year no questions asked wattanty so bring on the rocks.

Sounds like an awesome warranty!

DB_1 · January 28, 2008

I'm having good luck with the Longfield 300M joints in Superior shafts. The joints have cro-moly caps a lifetime warranty. These joints need to greased every other trip out depending on how much wheelin' you do since there are no needle bearings in there. The cross is made bigger leaving only enough room for a film of grease in the caps. I carry a mini grease gun with my trail tools and grease as necessary.

http://longfieldsuperaxles.com/

Lefy · January 29, 2008

nice job man and thanks for the heads up on the stubbler not fitting on the sports..
What kind of tank are you running now..
looks like a fuel cell?
is this thing still on the road or just a trailer queen.. don't see plates but you never know.

'97 V8 · January 29, 2008

time for a 60...nuff said.

95exploderboy · January 29, 2008

Lefy said:
nice job man and thanks for the heads up on the stubbler not fitting on the sports..
What kind of tank are you running now..
looks like a fuel cell?
is this thing still on the road or just a trailer queen.. don't see plates but you never know.

If you look back in my post you can see where I got the tank and how I adapted it to work with the ex. Yes it is trailered, but it ain't no queen.

Stic-o · January 29, 2008

any problems with the tank install? check engine lights or anything? I want to move mine here soon, but I have smog laws to deal with here

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