RADAR DETECTORS

[Black Magic]

In several different places the Escort Passport 8500 has been rated the very best over all. I had the Valentine and upgraded to the 8500. They are both great! However, I do notice the passport has outragous range and arround the corner range as well. I also love when I get board waiting to see th cop after it starts going off. Easily a good mile or two of range. I have never gotten a ticket since I got it. Once I had to get a rental and did not have my 8500 with me. I got a ticket the first night with out the 8500.

Not to chage the subject but to redirect it has anyone ever had any experience with something called Phazer II or Phaser II, I can't remember which one? It is a radar jammer. I can find them for like $150. I figure with that and the Passport 8500 I will never get a ticket again, well untill a helacopter catches me, ha ha. Too bad I am not that fast!

 

[99explorer5.0]

The fact that you guys havnt recieved tickets with your radar detectors is pure luck. Most cities now are using Lazer and that is a directed beam that can point to your car spacifically. Yes your radar detector will go off when the cop zaps your ass but at that point it is too late becuase your speed was already registered on the gun. He will notice the numbers on the gun going down becuase you hit the brake and you will get the ticket anyway. None of those radar detectors are worth 1 cent. The thing that you should invest your money in is the liecnece plate frames that make your car "invisible" to those guns. That way he wont have any numbers registered on his gun.

 

[Jason94sport]

I have 3. A 8500, A V1, & a K40. Like them all. I have the 8500 in my car, the V1 in the truck, & the K40 on a shelf. A good dector is the bell 980. You can get them for under $200 on ebay. The 8500 you can get for under $250. Ebay is the best source. You do get what you pay for. A cheap cobra, or radio shack junk unit, will be useless. It will give you more problems, then if you got a good detector from the start. OK so the V1 is too expensive, the 8500 is expensive, but not outrages, the bell 980 is the best choice for your needs.

 

[aldive]

Originally posted by 99explorer5.0
Most cities now are using Lazer

The thing that you should invest your money in is the liecnece plate frames that make your car "invisible" to those guns. That way he wont have any numbers registered on his gun.

That is not true in Florida, lazar is rather rare.

Please tell us more about this cloaking device,

Thanks.....

 

[Jason_25]

Just to let you know, active radar "jamming" is illegal and you can be subject to very large fines and jailtime for using it.

 

[99explorer5.0]

HMM let me see .... active radar jamming is illegal who the hell cares ... so is speeding and that is what everyone is trying to do and not get caught .... so is stealing cable and many people do it. and those can lead to severe fines and loss of licence. So what would you rather do spend the money on somethign that will let you know that you just got zapped and it is too late or get a liceence plate frame that will make you invisible? I am at work so i dont have access to the links of the jammer but when i get home i will post a link.

There is nothing wrong with giving people information. What they do with the knowlage is up to them

 

[DocVijay]

Jsmming is illegal, who care?

Well, you should. Speeding is not a major violation. Just a fine. The violation for using an active jammer is a federal felony. The FCC has rules and since it's a federal agency, the dodo gets exponentially deeper. It's a good thing those Jammer that are available are pieces of $hit anyway. They don't work. The same goes for the license plate frames that jam laser. They have infrared LEDs that are supposed to interfere with the laser beam. They rarely if ever work. Just not strong enough. Also, different laser guns use different wavelengths of light, so the frame may be even less useless if its not the right one.

What's the moral of the story? Jammers are crap. They don't work. Save your money.

 

[99explorer5.0]

DocVijay you mentioned that jammers are crap. But you failed to mention that radar detectors are more of a piece of crap then the jammers. How do you know they dont work? Do you know anyone who owns one? or do you know everything and you know for a fact that they dont work with no evidence that they dont?

Radar detectors are junk. I have been in two cars that were pulled over and the cop looked at the detector laughed in our faces and said you should have pulled over earlier becuase i know that thing went off AFTER i had your speed on my gun and you should have known you were getting pulled over. The other one the cop grabbed out of my friends car and we never saw it again.

There is so much **** out there to buy its not even funny. All these damn informercials selling all kinds of **** for the same exact price .... 2 easy payments of $19.99. I can speak from experience that radar detectors work by telling you that you got zapped but it is simply too late at that point. As far as the jammers ... i have no clue if they work but if you can recieve jailtime for having one i think that there is a better possiblity for those things working than something you can buy at any dept store.

Its like a cable descrambler box .... You can recieve jailtime becuse it works and your doing something against the law. I find it hard to belive that they would give you jailtime on a jammer if it didnt work i mean after all they can say its a jammer and you can so no it isnt it does nothing zap it and see what happens. And also if the thing didnt work in the first place how would they detect it and how would they know you even had one?

 

[aldive]

I beg to differ with you, my frienf, radar detectors do work, sometimes. If you are painted with the instant on type radar, you are caught plain and simple.

I have been using detectors for years and can assure you they have saved mu rear many, many times. I have never recieved a speeding ticket when using a top of the line ( Escort ) detector.

Nothing is fail safe, one can indeed be ticketed when using even the best detectors. They are simply a tool, how you use them is up to you.

 

[Jason_25]

Here's the story guys. Active Jammers WORK, but they are very illegal and almost impossible to find. Passive Jammers work by attempting to "absorb" the radio waves so they don't bounce back. They are legal, but they rarely work well.

99explorer5.0, you are absolutely right that if a cop gets you specifically with his gun, then you're toast, nothing you can do about it, BUT the reason alot of people buy radar detectors are for early warning. Example: state trooper is sitting up the road a mile and you can't see him, and he is clocking the people ahead of you, but your detector "sees" the waves coming from his gun and signals you beforehand. Therefore, the cop gets the guy in front of you, but not you because you will have had adequate time to slow down.

 

[99explorer5.0]

When someone belives in something then it is hard to prove them otherwise especially after they bought something. They will defend their product till the day they die. I have a friend who believes in aliens and belives that humans have been abucted and i have a few younger children in my family who beileve in santa claus. No matter what you say they will continue to belive in what they want.

Are you going to tell me that the "TORNADO" works and gives you 25 extra HP and that crap that your supposed to run your car without oil for a few miles and your car will be fine works as well? Someone came up with an idea and ran with it. Everyone is allowed to belive in fairy tales.

 

[DocVijay]

I say they don't work because they don't.

In college I actually worked on a bit of research to test them. It was great because they were paid for, and I could have kept one after if I wanted. I didn't keep one. They don't work. I'll see if I still have my data, but it was quite a while ago. Also, I remember that one of the car magazines did a report on them a few years back. Don't remember which though.

Also, let me clarify. 99% of the "jammers" out there are not any sort of jamming device, they are a passive design. They supposedly reflect the signal back in such a way that it confuses the radar gun. That is a bunch of crap. Those are not illegal, as they are mainly plastic boxes with tinfoil and an LED inside. There is one that works, and works well. But that one is also very illegal. It is sold in kit form for about $700-800. I don't remember who made the kit, but it was a place in Florida. That jammer is an active unit that sends out pulses of microwaves that it generates. That is the difference. That will mess up the signal to the radar gun, as it gets bombarded by 100 times the information it sent out, hence no speed. If you use one of those, the gun does not stay blank as some jammers claim. It actually will give an error code or some signal that something is wrong, and the officer usually will know something is up. He may not know what or who, though.

Now, most radar detectors are crap, but many do work. Quite well too. A good quality detector will give ample time to slow down so that he won't get your speed. The microwaves that radar guns use have a tendency to reflect off of everything. That's why when a cop is behind you, the radar will still go off. The microwaves are bouncing to you from car in front of you, from signs, from bridges, from buildings, etc. That is why a good quality, sensetive detector will work. It picks up these stray waves bouncing around, and then alerts you. I'm sure many will attest to that from personal experience. But from my personal experience, the jammers were as useful as a pile of feces on your dashboard.

By the way, unless you were in Virginia or Canada, that cop that took your friends detector can be called a thief. They can't do that. You're allowed to have them, and that's it. They are not allowed to confiscate them.

P.S. Yes, I do know everything, but that's only because I learned it all.

 

[tbomb]

Re: I say they don't work because they don't.

Originally posted by DocVijay
In college I actually worked on a bit of research to test them. It was great because they were paid for, and I could have kept one after if I wanted. I didn't keep one. They don't work. I'll see if I still have my data, but it was quite a while ago. Also, I remember that one of the car magazines did a report on them a few years back. Don't remember which though.

Also, let me clarify. 99% of the "jammers" out there are not any sort of jamming device, they are a passive design. They supposedly reflect the signal back in such a way that it confuses the radar gun. That is a bunch of crap. Those are not illegal, as they are mainly plastic boxes with tinfoil and an LED inside. There is one that works, and works well. But that one is also very illegal. It is sold in kit form for about $700-800. I don't remember who made the kit, but it was a place in Florida. That jammer is an active unit that sends out pulses of microwaves that it generates. That is the difference. That will mess up the signal to the radar gun, as it gets bombarded by 100 times the information it sent out, hence no speed. If you use one of those, the gun does not stay blank as some jammers claim. It actually will give an error code or some signal that something is wrong, and the officer usually will know something is up. He may not know what or who, though.

Now, most radar detectors are crap, but many do work. Quite well too. A good quality detector will give ample time to slow down so that he won't get your speed. The microwaves that radar guns use have a tendency to reflect off of everything. That's why when a cop is behind you, the radar will still go off. The microwaves are bouncing to you from car in front of you, from signs, from bridges, from buildings, etc. That is why a good quality, sensetive detector will work. It picks up these stray waves bouncing around, and then alerts you. I'm sure many will attest to that from personal experience. But from my personal experience, the jammers were as useful as a pile of feces on your dashboard.

By the way, unless you were in Virginia or Canada, that cop that took your friends detector can be called a thief. They can't do that. You're allowed to have them, and that's it. They are not allowed to confiscate them.

P.S. Yes, I do know everything, but that's only because I learned it all.

i dont doubt anything you said there because, quite frankly, i dont know much about that stuff, and im not terribly interested (ive had my radar detector for 2 years and in the last 18 months ive gotten 9 points on my license close to $500 in fines, a trial, a hearing, a 15 day license suspension, and i had to take a written safety test, not to mention my old insurance company told me to get lost. id rather just drive 5-10 mph slower than deal with the aggrivation.)

i do have to tell ya one thing: thats one of the funniest posts ive read in a long time.

 

[DocVijay]

Re: Re: I say they don't work because they don't.

Originally posted by tbomb



id rather just drive 5-10 mph slower than deal with the aggrivation.

Well tbomb you found the secret to not getting tickets. Unfortunately everyone is in such a damn hurry that they feel it necessary to cut in front of you and nearly shear of your front bumper trying to get one more car ahead during rush hour traffic so that they can get to wherever they are going in such a hurry a whole 2 seconds faster and that place must be really important in order to nearly cause an accident for those two seconds. GASP! Must remember to breath when venting...

 

[nytefog]

V1

Get the V1! I've had so many detectors because of my speeding problem. The V1 has worked the best out of any. It has saved my ass more that once...... Also, you can upgrade your valentine for half the price if a newer one comes out.

 

[Black Magic]

WOW! I just love how everyone here can get so Fired up :fire: over things. There is a lot of spunk in the room, I hope someone cleans it up later.

Anyway, I Guess no one has the Jammer thing? I didn't think that they worked just wanted to see if anyone else knows different. Thanks for the entertainment.

 

[espnfreak]

I am against radar detectors, because they do not work, and keeping away from them will prevent you from using them as a "safety blanket" for speeding. During a ride along i did a few months back with the police, i got to use the radar. We held the radar while driving and would turn it on and off very quickly just to get estimate speed numbers. I asked and the police man said that its standard for most officers to ride around with their radar "on hold". They shoot it at random cars that they believe are moving excessively fast. Police have a good eye who is speeding and who isnt. Bottom Line, radar detectors are bull. Why waste 80 bucks on one? Just like the tornado fuel saver. Drive the limit.

 

[KMac]

Why don't you just paint your EX with MAG-RAM, it's only a modest $1600/gallon.

 

[Yosilky]

Honestly i never go the speed limit, and i haven't gotten a ticket.......... it's basically luck, the only reason i'm in the market for a radar detector is because i have heard they have some success and it's only a matter of time before i end up like TBOMB!

 

[Jason94sport]

If you spend $80 on a detector, then you got JUNK. I'm intrested in knowing what models, & prices the guys who are saying detectors are junk got. And how long ago they had them. The really high end models, The V1, The Passport 8500, Bel 980 etc, all are VERY GOOD detectors, with lots of features. Detectors have come along way over the last few years. Yes Laser is bad, & yes ALL detectors have poor laser range, & if you get hit with laser, chances are you get pulled over. Some detectors also have VERY POOR instant on range. These are the cheap ones, & where the good detectors shine. The top 3(V1, 8500, & 980) all have very good range with instant on, X, K, & KA bands, even laser is getting better. Now with those laser plate things, I just know from what I have read that most if not do not work, & if they do give the cop's laser gun, an error, or no speed, the cop will pull you over anyway to find out why.

Laser is not everywhere either. I have never got hit with a laser signal. I lived in FL, NYC, drove cross country to cali, Drive from FL to NYC, Penn, & Boston all the time.

I only got 1 speeding ticket in 7 years. Only had my detectors for 2. I own a few FAST cars too.