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2002 XLT - Is the transmission guaranteed to fail?

mikejay68

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I service the transmission every 12k miles at a real transmission shop. Now my guy is telling me that these transmissions go at about 90k miles (which I have). He knows EXACTLY why, and has a special tool to fix it on the rebuild. It's still going to cost me $2k.

TRUE? I've searched the forums. . .

2002 XLT 4wd 4.0

WISH I GOT THE V8 !!!
 



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I service the tranny every 12k miles at a real tranny shop. Now my guy is telling me: "oh yea, those trannys go at about 90k miles. I keep them on the shelf it is so common." (which I have). He knows EXACTLY why and has a special tool to fix it on the rebuild. Still gonna cost me $2k.

TRUE? I've searched the forums for similar stories . . .throw me a link . . .

2002 XLT 4wd 4.0

BTW, he says there is a steel pin that goes in and out of a hole in the aluminum case. The soft metal wears and the pin malfunctions and breaks a belt. I may have it a little mixed up, but you get the idea.

WISH I GOT THE V8 !!!
 






yeah, well lets hope its not true lol, but they just need to make an indestructable, wear-resistant tanny lol.

i dont trust those shops anymore, so many of them try to rip you off

but yeah, when i sell my 92, im gettin the V8 for sure :)
 






'02 transmission failure

My '02 had the trans problem that seems to plague all of them. The solenoid pack location is the wear point, and can be repaired by a competent shop with the proper equipment. After rebuild at 65K, mine worked flawlessly. It was the rear end problems that caused me to trade it. Hated to get rid of it, but enough was enough.
 






Sounds like the 02's have some issues lol ill deff. keep away from that year :p
 






2002 XLT Tranny - GTD to Fail?

My Tranny guy is telling my tranny is guaranteed to fail at 90 to 120k miles.

He knows the reason why and has a special tool to fix this "fast mover" in the world of transmission failures and repair.

Anyone have experience or similar comments from their shop??
 






You know...the trans on my '99 Ranger failed at 90,000 miles, heh. My brother has a '98 that has 140,000 miles. Tans still shifts fine. My dad has a 2000 that has around 110,000 miles...still shifts fine. They don't service their transmissions at all.

Yes, when my trans was overhauled I needed a new case because of the shift bore wear issue.

My '88 Ranger, 2.9L with the A4LD (known for early failure) went 263,000 miles without a problem. I didn't do ANYTHING to that trans but beat on it. I think it's luck of the draw.
 












i got 163,000 and my trany is good as the first day i bought her
 












My transmission guy told me that most of the Explorers they see with AOD transmissions come in for rebuilds at about 120,000 miles, and that he has seen a few go over 200,000 with fluid changes every 30,000. His price to rebuild is more like $2,500.
 






The "magic tool" to fix the Tranny is . . .

Some kind of boring tool tha alows him to insert a steel sleeve for the pin to ride in instead of the Aluminum case.

Problem is, he has to dissassble the tranny to do the job . . . this is no 'easy' fix.
 






You are referring to the the tool from WWW.ServoBore.Com. http://www.servobore.com/servobore/5rw.asp
5rw_kit.jpg

Your other option is to get a case from: http://800700tran.com/prod.itml/icOid/341
 






My Tranny guy is telling my tranny is guaranteed to fail at 90 to 120k miles.

He knows the reason why and has a special tool to fix this "fast mover" in the world of transmission failures and repair.

Anyone have experience or similar comments from their shop??

What i think he does, or this is what mine did, was to re-sleeve the servo bores with steel ones and replace the pistons. What was happening, or so i was told, the bores were aluminum and the pistons steel and they wound up grinding the bores down. The kit does a great job of fixing it. Mine gave out a 52k but something broke in a big way and after the rebuild mine runs better than factory.

Edit: i just hit post then the pics show up, BrooklyBay has got it
 






Guaranteed!

I have a 2002 XLT which gave out at about 85K miles. The shops around here in Houston all said that they were surprised it lasted as long as it did. Even the dealership admitted that the tranny is a POS.
Just like many of you, it wouldn't shift into 2nd gear unless I let off the gas a little. What caused it? The cheap POS torque converter gave out and threw clutch (or whatever you call it) material into my tranny causing all sorts of problems. After a $2000 rebuild, I now have 184K miles on it without any problems whatsoever.
Do yourself a favor and bypass the 2002 Explorer. Buy another year model.

2002 Ford Explorer 4.0L V-6
 






Keep in mind that Ford sells an average of about 750,000 Explorers every year... for every one you read about here that has a trans that fails at 80,000 miles, there are literally tens of thousands of them that just keep chugging along with several hundreds of thousands of miles on them.

I wouldn't call it a 'flaw', it's just something that wears out. Do you complain when your brakes wear out every 15,000 miles because you spend your entire commute in rush hour traffic? People that spend a lot of time on the freeway might go 50-60k on a set of brakes.... it's all in how much stuff gets used.

Every machine is going to wear out eventually, and need some parts. Those parts can be stock replacements, or heavy-duty parts that may last longer than the machine they're in... It's just the way things are. Nothing lasts forever.

Remember the days when you had to adjust lifter clearances every month or 10,000 miles? Or rebuild the trans every 30k? (50k was livin' on borrowed time) Or re-tune the carb every time the outside temp swung from hot to cold? How often did cars go through spark plugs back in the 70s?? Remember when odometers were only 5 digits long? Wasn't that long ago.... I had a 90 Ranger that only had 5 digits on the odometer....

FWIW, I've done nothing more than fluid and filter changes every 30,000 miles since 1998. I'm at 170,000 miles, and it still shifts like it did the day I brought it home. I used it to tow my boat for the first three summers I owned it.... It was a 4650 lb Bayliner... Still chuggin' along just fine on the stock trans (knocking feverishly on wood).
 






Keep in mind that Ford sells an average of about 750,000 Explorers every year... for every one you read about here that has a trans that fails at 80,000 miles, there are literally tens of thousands of them that just keep chugging along with several hundreds of thousands of miles on them.

I wouldn't call it a 'flaw', it's just something that wears out. Do you complain when your brakes wear out every 15,000 miles because you spend your entire commute in rush hour traffic? People that spend a lot of time on the freeway might go 50-60k on a set of brakes.... it's all in how much stuff gets used.

Every machine is going to wear out eventually, and need some parts. Those parts can be stock replacements, or heavy-duty parts that may last longer than the machine they're in... It's just the way things are. Nothing lasts forever.

Remember the days when you had to adjust lifter clearances every month or 10,000 miles? Or rebuild the trans every 30k? (50k was livin' on borrowed time) Or re-tune the carb every time the outside temp swung from hot to cold? How often did cars go through spark plugs back in the 70s?? Remember when odometers were only 5 digits long? Wasn't that long ago.... I had a 90 Ranger that only had 5 digits on the odometer....

FWIW, I've done nothing more than fluid and filter changes every 30,000 miles since 1998. I'm at 170,000 miles, and it still shifts like it did the day I brought it home. I used it to tow my boat for the first three summers I owned it.... It was a 4650 lb Bayliner... Still chuggin' along just fine on the stock trans (knocking feverishly on wood).

2 thumbs way up, i totally agree:cool:
 






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