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96 radio in a 91?

Ace Fury

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'98 Sport
I have a 91 2dr with premium sound. I picked up a
96 radio w/CD for premium sound. The size and wiring match up. I tried using the new radio but I get no sound. The rest of the controls work fine, scaner, clock etc. Everything looks the same on the back of both. Any ideas?
 



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How did you fit a 96 head unit into a 91? Aren't the 96s DIN and 1/2?

peace

Mike
 






that's what i was thinking...
 






97 radio in a 91?

Sorry, it came from a 96 passsager car.
ID# F6EF-18C815-BA
 






You need more voltage to turn on the amp

The newer DIN radios send a 5V signal to turn on the power amp. Older models send a 12V signal; your amp will not turn on (with the newer radio) because it is not seeing enough voltage for a "turn-on" signal.

I have worked around this by moving the pin for the amp turn-on to the spot in the power plug for the "Power antenna" - it's sending a 12V signal, and will turn your amp "on".

Regards,

cobrajeff
 






Re: You need more voltage to turn on the amp

>The newer DIN radios send a 5V signal to turn on
>the power amp. Older models send a 12V signal;
>your amp will not turn on (with the newer radio)
>because it is not seeing enough voltage for a
>"turn-on" signal.

I have worked around this by moving the pin for the amp turn-on to the spot in the power plug for the "Power antenna" - it's sending a 12V signal, and will turn your amp "on".<<<<<<<<<

What pin is the antenna and how do I go about moving the pin? I can not find any mention in the repair manual that I have. Thanks.
 






Look at the "Power connector" on the back of the radio - it is the larger one with eight flat pins. Counting from the top ("key" notch is at top of plug), count the pins from top to bottom as one thru eight. The Power amp turn-on is at pin #8. You need to move that wire so that it mates up with pin #4 (Power Antenna signal) of the radio.

If your connector (harness side) has a red "locking spline" in it, that will have to be removed (temporarily). Pry it loose with a small screwdriver, tweezers, or awl. Once the locking spline is out, the pins can be removed from the connector. Your pin location #4 should be blank (no connection). Using a paper clip (or very small screw-driver) release the pin (they usually have a small retention tab) from the connector at pin location #8, and move it to location #4. Push it in to the connector until it "clicks". Snap the locking spline back into place, and you should be all set.

I thought of one other thing it MIGHT be, but not as likely. Some of the Premium Cassette radios were made to be "CD Changer compatible". If there is no CD Changer in the vehicle, then they need a "shorting plug" installed in the top (6-pin) shielded connector spot. This is easy to check - just add the shorting pin (it is a plug-in connector), and, if the radio then works, that was it. Without the pin, you will have no audio.

Either one of these situations (shorting connector or amp turn-on voltage) could cause the problem you've described. Good luck fixing it, hope this helps.

Regards,

cobrajeff
 






Thanks for the tip cobrajeff.

It was right on except for one thing, in my 91 Navajo w/Premium sound the empty pin location is #7. I moved the blue wire on #8 to #7 and everything is working fine now. Thanks again.
 






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