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Adding Manual Lockup Converter Control for 4WD-Low Crawling. Possible???

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I was watching some video covering 4x4ing with manual vs auto trans and it occurred to me that one could theoretically make their auto behave like a manual when crawling in 4x4 low simply by engaging the lock up converter.

Has anyone done this?
 



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I believe you can do this within the tune. Last time I put my EX on the dyno, it would spike at one point because the converter would finally lock up. My tuner said that he could send me a tune that would lock the converter to prevent that from happening.
 






Why would you want to do that, you would lose all torque multiplication from the converter. It would be a completely torqueless dog.
 






Why would you want to do that, you would lose all torque multiplication from the converter. It would be a completely torqueless dog.

From a 4x4 site:

With a manual transmission in first gear low range you have a constant low crawling speed and a constant uninterrupted power (torque) supply.
You are approaching a football sized rock with your front left tire at 1 mph. Hitting the rock with 1 mph is no task for the suspension, no big deal for the tire, and no big deal for the available torque to move you up and over at 1 mph. Going down on the other side of the rock happens also at 1 mph. So, all in all a safe slow crawl over an obstacle.

With an automatic transmission and only the right foot on the gas you have a slow speed of 1 mph (around 1000 rpm) on level ground approaching the rock. Once you hit the rock your vehicle will come to a halt since the connection between engine and transmission is "fluid" - the torque converter is not delivering equal uninterrupted power below 1500 rpm. Going faster than 1500 rpm is not an option because you would be too fast for the coming rock. Most SUVs move at 4-6 mph with 1700 engine rpm in first gear low range. Hitting the rock with 4-6 mph might do some damage to tire and suspension - plus, the rocking and bouncing of the body, especially when coming down on the other side of the rock will slam the rocker panel into the rock. That will leave nasty dents. So you really need to go as slow as possible. So, back to the rock. Your tire is still against it - engine still running because other than with a manual transmission the engine will not die when the vehicle comes to a forced standstill. Now, to make it over that rock you will have to get on the gas to build up more torque. No big deal, there is plenty available. However, getting a vehicle moving from standstill requires more torque then when already moving. More torque in low traction environments translate to spinning tires. Even with ETS you don't want that to happen. Unnecessary trouble. So, you gave it more gas, the tires did not start spinning and you are climbing up the rock. Nice and slow. Good. But going down on the other side the ML will speed up rapidly. The body will bounce and your rocker panel will end up on the rock. Damage is to be expected. In order to avoid the stopping, avoid spinning tires and the bouncing action you will have to drive with one foot on the gas and one on the brake. Takes some practicing because our left foot is not that sensitive on the brake. Approaching the rock you would get on the brake 10 feet before and add some gas to maintain 1 mph. The gas creates enough torque to climb the rock and the brake will keep you from going faster than 1 mph. So your speed is now almost as controlled as with a manual transmission. 1 mph before - 1 mph up, over and down. No banging, no bouncing, no damage. That is why "two footed" is so valuable. Since the two footed technique puts more strain on the transmission (unhealthy heat develops - and heat kills automatics) manual transmission are still choice #1 when it comes to more difficult off-road. For light and medium duty, and an occasional two footed climb automatics are just perfect.
 






Okay, that makes sense. I don't off road so I didn't think about that.
 






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