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i had the cam tensioner done a while back. does that mean they did the manifold o-rings too?
 



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That would depend on when you had it done and whether or not your dealer did what they were supposed to do. As of November, 2000 any time either was replaced, the dealer was supposed to do both per the program. I have heard of instances though were people have said their dealer didn't since they didn't have any symtoms for the other going bad. The reason Ford instructed the dealers to do both at the same time is each repair takes about 2 hours by themselves but if you do both repairs, it only takes about 2 1/2 hours. Since Ford knew both items were prone to problems, they wanted to save some inevitable future warranty calls by just doing it all at once. The unscrupulous dealers though would charge Ford the full 2 1/2 hours of warranty labor allowed to do both but only do one of the items. There wasn't any real way to tell. Unfortunately when Ford now looks up your VIN they will likely tell you that the update has already been done. It shouldn't matter though since you are still covered under the extended warranty whether you have the revised parts in or the old parts.
 






thanks robert. yeah i don't remember them saying anything about the o-rings when they told me they did the cam tensioner so i'll definately remember to bring this one up to them if the other solutions don't work.

thanks for all the input guys.
 






well i haven't had a chance to do the cleaning yet, but this weekend is completely free of chores so i'll do it then.
and i have the code now (i stopped back by to get it) that the computer gave.
P0171 and it said bank 1. anyway, thanks for all the responses earlier. i'll get to work on this problem this weekend.
 






ok i cleaned the MAF and the IAC and the K&N today. the CEL just came back on after 3 driving sessions. it still idles a bit choppy, not like extremely bad or anything, just enough to notice. i guess i'll try the propane trick. hope i don't blow myself up!
any other suggestions as to what to try? thanks a lot guys.
 






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